Pedigree Query

Anyone wanna go halfsies on this one with me?

https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?f ... =3&theater

Like his color, but the head/neck/shoulder...oy.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?f ... =3&theater

I think the second horse's head/neck/shoulder is fine--it's just in an awkward ugly immature stage. If you were to shrink its butt down to normal weanling levels, rather than front end like a weaner and back end like a 2yo, it'd look better.

OMG the first one is amazing!!! I'm shocked to not see any obvious splash lines there. He's clearly splash and the second loudest I've ever seen in a TB. I would kill to find a photo of his dam.

accphotography wrote:OMG the first one is amazing!!! I'm shocked to not see any obvious splash lines there. He's clearly splash and the second loudest I've ever seen in a TB. I would kill to find a photo of his dam.

Try: http://www.mackgriffith.com/index/archive2004

Maybe? The picture at the top is labeled: August 2004: Jockey Corey Brown rides the Randwick winner "Sutton Review".

Also found this: http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com.au ... 34727.html


And a half sibling here: http://www.breednet.com.au/Foal2007Ind.asp?id=51

Can't see any white on the mare, and very minimal on the half-sib.

The phenotype sported by this colt is due to a conjunction of characteristics
playing together as a team provided by a good number of his ancestors, both, the more evident, along with the less conspicuous. Albeit one can cite the colorful presence of NOT A SINGLE DOUBT’s broodmare sire RORY’S JESTER (see his picture), the truth is that the pedigree of this unique colt is also carrying a robust combo of various re-known sabino sources. Note that he is carrying three doses of Northern Dancer, a powerful sabino influence on both top and bottom. Then there are two independent additional doses of Natalma via Spring Adieu. Then there is Northern Dancer’s sire Nearctic, through another powerful sabino influence named Explodent. Then there is Roberto (a protagonical character in Not Quite White’s pedigree). Then there is Grey Flight (do you remember What A Pleasure?), a daughter of Mahmoud who many forget he fashioned high white leg markings before his gray color took over his entire coat. The consistent influence of My Babu and Never Bend are also there.

Remember I am only browsing the first five generation of NOT A SINGLE DOUBT and SUTTON REVIEW. Going further back you will note multiple doses from the “one-man-gang” of color oddities: Hyperion. Let me put it this way, if you see a shinning automobile with lots of repaired subjacent dents and subtle pinholes with all the glass rubber all cracked, no matter how concours painted the car may look, it’s a car with lots of asterisks to worry about. Well, when you see a horse with so many of the aforementioned ancestors, no matter if the parents were normal looking equines, don’t be surprised if a flamboyant product such as this one appears.

I remember the uproar caused with the appearance of the extremely white colt, Clarence Stewart. His parents were extremely common colored equines but when you examine his ancestors today, you note the presence of many asterisk tell-telling sources. Now after many years of browsing pedigrees its easy to pinpoint the probable culprits behind his white color, but back then it was a complete mystery. After his racing days were over he was used as a sire by his owner Dr Leon D. Star but he only managed to sire one white product (White Flight). Today with the advantage of knowing how to correctly cross white Thoroughbreds the ratio is very robust. Just ask Dalene Knight of Painted Desert Farm.

I don't know where it came from in his sire, but his sire is definitely the culprit IMO (though both likely had to contribute for this).

Thanks!! When does he sell??

I would expect him to go for 2 to 300,000 easily. Beautifully bred horse !

here is his catalogue page

http://magicmillions.ddm.magsbyme.com/l ... &title=Lot 349:

lot no 349, thursday 12th jan

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Results will be here

http://magicmillions.ddm.magsbyme.com/e ... g/limit/30

Live coverage webcam here

http://live.magicmillions.com.au/

Great info! Thanks again!

I'm with you Bel, I thought he would have sold for a lot higher

Well, the service fee alone is just under 25k

I'm guessing there is some bias against his color.

I don't know ACC, I would think from watching the video that Bel posted the auctioneer said there was alot of interest outside the ring.