Corporate Report just came to Iowa, and I see him as a fairly exciting new resource.
ISU is thinking about sending a mare to an outside stalllion and they asked me to look at potential stallions. I picked this guy, but I am unsure with how well he would match up with our best mares. For a commercial farm, there is one obvious mare, but I'd like to go a little deeper than that.
The mares:
Too Loud (the obvious pick, with a multiple stakes winner already on her page)
Midnightontheoasis (daughter of a Canadian horse of the year)
Werra (won about $188k on the two foals on the ground - the first is a yearling)
Of course, providing there is a decent pedigree match, we'll have to look at conformation - but I know more about conformation than matching pedigrees <g>.
Other stallions I like in IA, MN, NE, and IL are Blumin' Affair, Kyle's Our Man, Ghazi, and Well Decorated (providing he's still standing? alive? I don't know)
~Adrienne
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FOS -
I would appreciate more details.
I chose him as perhaps an interesting newcomer to a growing regional area.
Pretty much what I have to choose from are horses kicked out of Kentucky (Supremo, Mi Cielo). Horses with little to no race record and good family. Horses with good race record and no family. Etc. etc. There is nothing ideal around here.
I was looking at him because is the only Grade I winner standing in Iowa.
I worry about his conformation (he appears to stand very base wide behind in his photos?) and his lack of sucess in PA.
However, Iowa is a smaller market than PA.
Perhaps you could suggest other IA stallions that would be more suitable?
~Adrienne
I would appreciate more details.
I chose him as perhaps an interesting newcomer to a growing regional area.
Pretty much what I have to choose from are horses kicked out of Kentucky (Supremo, Mi Cielo). Horses with little to no race record and good family. Horses with good race record and no family. Etc. etc. There is nothing ideal around here.
I was looking at him because is the only Grade I winner standing in Iowa.
I worry about his conformation (he appears to stand very base wide behind in his photos?) and his lack of sucess in PA.
However, Iowa is a smaller market than PA.
Perhaps you could suggest other IA stallions that would be more suitable?
~Adrienne
hi adrienne
I remember the first time I set eyes on Corporate Report at Overbrook.
My first impression was...very upright...raw...and weak behind (at least as far as I was concerned). I thought he was a very poor stallion prospect that had little (if anything) physically to offer a mare...and was not worthy of serious consideration. He was simply unacceptable.
The flip side...as a race horse he obviously overcame his physical shortcomings...he had won the G1 Travers (at Saratoga)...and he was standing at a farm where he would receive a very good opportunity.
Fast forward to 2005...All Things Considered I suggest that he is nothing short of a flop as a sire.
He has no appeal whatsoever (at least as far as I'm concerned)...and I could not recommend breeding to him under any conditions.
I am not familiar with other Iowa stallions...I hope there is better than CR available.
Please forgive the thumbs-down-down-down review.
Best to you.
Respectfully
I remember the first time I set eyes on Corporate Report at Overbrook.
My first impression was...very upright...raw...and weak behind (at least as far as I was concerned). I thought he was a very poor stallion prospect that had little (if anything) physically to offer a mare...and was not worthy of serious consideration. He was simply unacceptable.
The flip side...as a race horse he obviously overcame his physical shortcomings...he had won the G1 Travers (at Saratoga)...and he was standing at a farm where he would receive a very good opportunity.
Fast forward to 2005...All Things Considered I suggest that he is nothing short of a flop as a sire.
He has no appeal whatsoever (at least as far as I'm concerned)...and I could not recommend breeding to him under any conditions.
I am not familiar with other Iowa stallions...I hope there is better than CR available.
Please forgive the thumbs-down-down-down review.
Best to you.
Respectfully
hi adrienne
You wrote "Other stallions I like in IA, MN, NE, and IL are Blumin' Affair, Kyle's Our Man, Ghazi, and Well Decorated (providing he's still standing? alive? I don't know)."
Including Corporate Report...is what you intend to do...to breed to one of those stallions (mentioned above) or a stallion (whether already mentioned or not) that is based in one of those states ?
Respectfully
You wrote "Other stallions I like in IA, MN, NE, and IL are Blumin' Affair, Kyle's Our Man, Ghazi, and Well Decorated (providing he's still standing? alive? I don't know)."
Including Corporate Report...is what you intend to do...to breed to one of those stallions (mentioned above) or a stallion (whether already mentioned or not) that is based in one of those states ?
Respectfully
hi adrienne
If supporting an Iowa-based stallion may be a priority...what about Friendly Lover...isn't he in Iowa ? At least he comes up with an occasional stakes winner. What do you have to pay to breed to him ?
But if you're willing to possibly ship east and go to New York...at least there are a couple of relatively inexpensive stallions standing there with a dream connected to them (at least currently) and a potential upside. Some examples: Intidab ($3,500...and sire of a current classic hopeful)...and the brilliant fast Mayakovsky ($3,000...and first crop hitting the ground now)...and Freud ($5,000...his first 2-year-olds run this year and he appears to have been very well received at the recent select in-training sales).
If the sales may be an option down-the-road...this is probably worthy of some consideration.
And what about this...is this a possibility...an Iowa-bred foal by a NY-based sire whose offspring are eligible for the New York Stallion Stakes series ?
I could see it now...a number of ISU professors etc...buying into that Iowa-bred...New York-sired foal...with the dream of having some fun.
But then again...All Things Considered...it's probably easier to go to Ky and breed, than to NY...hmmm.
Sounds to me that having an Iowa-bred by a stallion with some potential "sex appeal" might satisfy your needs...unfortunately though...you may have to look to the east (or east-southeast) to find the sire that may help you accomplish that. That sire is probably not in Iowa.
Best to you.
Respectfully
If supporting an Iowa-based stallion may be a priority...what about Friendly Lover...isn't he in Iowa ? At least he comes up with an occasional stakes winner. What do you have to pay to breed to him ?
But if you're willing to possibly ship east and go to New York...at least there are a couple of relatively inexpensive stallions standing there with a dream connected to them (at least currently) and a potential upside. Some examples: Intidab ($3,500...and sire of a current classic hopeful)...and the brilliant fast Mayakovsky ($3,000...and first crop hitting the ground now)...and Freud ($5,000...his first 2-year-olds run this year and he appears to have been very well received at the recent select in-training sales).
If the sales may be an option down-the-road...this is probably worthy of some consideration.
And what about this...is this a possibility...an Iowa-bred foal by a NY-based sire whose offspring are eligible for the New York Stallion Stakes series ?
I could see it now...a number of ISU professors etc...buying into that Iowa-bred...New York-sired foal...with the dream of having some fun.
But then again...All Things Considered...it's probably easier to go to Ky and breed, than to NY...hmmm.
Sounds to me that having an Iowa-bred by a stallion with some potential "sex appeal" might satisfy your needs...unfortunately though...you may have to look to the east (or east-southeast) to find the sire that may help you accomplish that. That sire is probably not in Iowa.
Best to you.
Respectfully
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Pray for a filly with a mating to Corporate Report. His daughters are gold!! As bad as he as been as a sire [terrible], he is great as a broodmare sire.
Heck, I would breed him to some of my mares if he were in my area and only keep the daughters [why race them, the extra foals would be worth keeping them unraced]. I would give away the colts because that is what most of them are worth.
George
Heck, I would breed him to some of my mares if he were in my area and only keep the daughters [why race them, the extra foals would be worth keeping them unraced]. I would give away the colts because that is what most of them are worth.
George
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Adrienne,
I have two great looking Corporate Report daughters. One did well at the track until she was hurt, and the other is a yearling. In all fairness to Corporate Report, he was not bred to many decent mares in PA.
He's worth a shot!
Gary27
I have two great looking Corporate Report daughters. One did well at the track until she was hurt, and the other is a yearling. In all fairness to Corporate Report, he was not bred to many decent mares in PA.
He's worth a shot!
Gary27
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FOS & George I just purchased a Corp. Report mare yesterday as a matter of fact.
We currently have one mare booked to Freud at this time. Now we are looking for a stallion in Ny for the CP mare.
I have posted in the Mating forum, seeking advise on mating this mare, either in NY or KY. Stud Fee must be $5000 ish! Any Suggestions?
As listed in the mating forum she has limited Blacktype in her female Fam...1st is 1/2 to graded stakes winner, 2nd is multi stakes placed and is also 1/2 to Stakes winner.
We currently have one mare booked to Freud at this time. Now we are looking for a stallion in Ny for the CP mare.
I have posted in the Mating forum, seeking advise on mating this mare, either in NY or KY. Stud Fee must be $5000 ish! Any Suggestions?
As listed in the mating forum she has limited Blacktype in her female Fam...1st is 1/2 to graded stakes winner, 2nd is multi stakes placed and is also 1/2 to Stakes winner.
Fins to the Left....