If you are going to personally raise, race and retire the foal then the foal will be loved and cared for it's entire life. No harm no foul to anyone else. You have one riding horse now, I'm sure you could use two in about five or six years.
My comment would focus on the risk reward to the venture. Cost of keeping CC for two years $10,000.00. Vet and foaling costs $3,000.00. Stud fee $3,000.00 (estimated could be free to say $10,000.00). Cost of foal care for foaling year $3,000.00. Cost of yearling including breaking, $10,000.00. Cost of horse in training including vet costs $30,000.00 per year for three years equals $90,000.00. Total estimated costs to breed raise and race through 5 years would be $116,000.00. Couple that with 70% starters/ 50% winners from starters and the odds seem daunting. Is it possible to breed a race horse from CC? Certainly it is possible. Risk/high reward/low. It's a pretty big roll of the dice but they are your dice. Good luck in your decision.
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Give the Pope and the King of England a horse and in thirty days, they'll be stealing halters.
It certainly is exciting that family 23b is in a position to claim the Triple Crown again after 34 years!
It just bespeaks the excellency of family 23b has not been diminished in any way, but is a rising and ascending family that has great triumphs ahead in the future.
Had a call from a Gulf Emirate client inquiring about CC today, amazing the level of interest in family 23b, and especially this mare being from a French bred The Aga Khan stock; breeder of the famous Mahmoud.
What an exciting year!
This really is coming together to be the year of the big pay-off for my decades of pedigree analysis, thank you Albin Worth for starting pedigree query
It just bespeaks the excellency of family 23b has not been diminished in any way, but is a rising and ascending family that has great triumphs ahead in the future.
Had a call from a Gulf Emirate client inquiring about CC today, amazing the level of interest in family 23b, and especially this mare being from a French bred The Aga Khan stock; breeder of the famous Mahmoud.
What an exciting year!
This really is coming together to be the year of the big pay-off for my decades of pedigree analysis, thank you Albin Worth for starting pedigree query
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Jeff wrote:Had a call from a Gulf Emirate client inquiring about CC today, amazing the level of interest in family 23b, and especially this mare being from a French bred The Aga Khan stock; breeder of the famous Mahmoud.
What an exciting year!
If your gulf emirate client calls again and is seriously interested in buying this mare, sell her and don't ever think twice about it.
Her half-brother won six bottom-level races....and yes, six races is six races, but the highest purse he ever won had a winner's share of $4400. Their dam raced 26 times for less than $15,000. Their dam was useful, but didn't breed on, and neither did her half-sister. You have to go back to the 5th dam to find some significant production, and all of that was local production in the pacific northwest. Once new blood came in from elsewhere, this branch of the family languished. You have to go back to 1860 to find the common ancestor with I'll Have Another....
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Tappiano wrote:I'm thinking you should be running not walking straight over to winstar and breeding her to Distorted Humor, I'm sure they'd be thrilled to give you a complimentary season simply because of the family affiliation.
He can't.
Due to a windfall from a Nigerian Prince who e-mailed me, I've purchased Distorted Humor and won't be accepting this mare even if they offered me $200K for a No Guarantee Season.
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Hold Your Peace wrote:He can't.
Due to a windfall from a Nigerian Prince who e-mailed me, I've purchased Distorted Humor and won't be accepting this mare even if they offered me $200K for a No Guarantee Season.
I'll trade you the top secret Neiman Marcus Cookie Recipe for three seasons to Distorted Humor. You're never going to get a better offer than that!
karenkarenn wrote: I am inclined to disagree with your rebutal that your mares family can make another great winner. Lets look at facts.
1. Archs Gal Edith made 25,000 and made very successfull babies, Your family did not.
2. All Rainbows made 118,000 and made some sucessfull babies too . Yours did not.
3. Then if you would bring your mare to Joe Daehling, to bred to Gotham City , He would laugh at you. He really would. I know him very well.
4. The reason why I would dodge this bullet is, I can't find an success even near her. Not an mating sucess nothing. So why bred?
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Karen,
Considering your mating success
http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+lords+longshot
It's hard to believe you'd be over here trying to give somebody advice that they shouldn't breed a mare.
And my good friend Joe Daehling would breed CC Jazz to one of his fine stallions in a heartbeat should I ever choose to bring her down, and it's 'choose to breed', not bred.
Jeff
Now I really like The Lord's Long Shot's sire Stormy Jack, just might haul a mare to him, didn't realize Steelinctive made it to the broodmare sire ranks.
I remember when Steelinctive came to Oregon somewhere around 1990, 91, they hauled him down from Old English Rancho as I recall, he later turned into such a great sire from his small crop of foals in California that had he lived, I'm sure he would have gone back to California, or made the leading sire list in Oregon for sure, I remember everybody wanted to breed their mare to Steelinctive.
It was a sad sad day when he died of Potomac Horse Fever with his head in Bob's lap. They had him booked to lots of mares, it was devastating. As I recall they had Desert Serpent standing there too.
I always laugh remembering the story about the send off when they departed Old English Rancho with Steelinctive and Desert Serpent.
When Steelinctive was leaving, the grooms were crying and waving good-bye, they loved that horse.
When Desert Serpent was leaving, he received the old single digit
Hasta la vista, baby.
I remember when Steelinctive came to Oregon somewhere around 1990, 91, they hauled him down from Old English Rancho as I recall, he later turned into such a great sire from his small crop of foals in California that had he lived, I'm sure he would have gone back to California, or made the leading sire list in Oregon for sure, I remember everybody wanted to breed their mare to Steelinctive.
It was a sad sad day when he died of Potomac Horse Fever with his head in Bob's lap. They had him booked to lots of mares, it was devastating. As I recall they had Desert Serpent standing there too.
I always laugh remembering the story about the send off when they departed Old English Rancho with Steelinctive and Desert Serpent.
When Steelinctive was leaving, the grooms were crying and waving good-bye, they loved that horse.
When Desert Serpent was leaving, he received the old single digit
Hasta la vista, baby.