Of my five mares, three are confirmed pregnant, and two are on their third covers. So far we have two Vicar babes and a Prime Timber in the ovens.
Vivid Dreams just went back for third try June 19th with Saarland, who is proving to be subfertile. We couldn't get out of the contract until we'd tried three times with no results. Naturally, we'd like to get a Saarland foal in late May, but I also would be happy to save the stud fee and take her elsewhere early next year. So either way, I'll be satisfied.
Reigning Glory was to have visited Ocean Terrace again last week sometime, and will remain open if no results this time. Thankfully they are both very fertile horses. She's already been pregnant twice (with three fetuses) since she delivered in January. See previous threads for details.
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Rocking H
Bummer about Saarland. The three cover rule is really tough on mare owners. I understand why stallion owners do it, but I lost a whole season fiddling with the subfertile and completely wacky Tumblebrutus. It seems 2 covers (unless there are extenuating circumstances) is a fair number for all involved.
I'll cross my fingers for you!
I'll cross my fingers for you!
I don't have low self-esteem. I have low esteem for everyone else. ~ Daria
Both of my "outside" breedings took this year, on one cover.
Express to Boston is in foal to Street Cry, and Miss Ballet is in foal to Hap.
All the open mares bred to Rocking Trick are in foal, and we are getting ready to check the mares with foals. Three of my maiden mares delivered late and have been "pulled down" pretty heavily by large foals so they will have time off until February. All of Rocking Trick's outside mares are in foal. He mostly hit them all again this year with one jump.
Express to Boston is in foal to Street Cry, and Miss Ballet is in foal to Hap.
All the open mares bred to Rocking Trick are in foal, and we are getting ready to check the mares with foals. Three of my maiden mares delivered late and have been "pulled down" pretty heavily by large foals so they will have time off until February. All of Rocking Trick's outside mares are in foal. He mostly hit them all again this year with one jump.
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About getting mares to conceive and subfertile studs? I am new in the TB world but spent a lot of time in vet school in the eqine Therio. service. Do TB stallion owners not have their studs collected and tested before breeding season starts? Are the mares being ultrasounded so she is bred when the follicle is ready? Are the mares examined before breeding season to see if the uterus is free of infection or other fetus unfreindly conditions? Just questions about the way of TB breeding. Perhaps different process than what I am familiar with...
Cherry
Cherry
About getting mares to conceive and subfertile studs? I am new in the TB world but spent a lot of time in vet school in the eqine Therio. service. Do TB stallion owners not have their studs collected and tested before breeding season starts? Are the mares being ultrasounded so she is bred when the follicle is ready? Are the mares examined before breeding season to see if the uterus is free of infection or other fetus unfreindly conditions? Just questions about the way of TB breeding. Perhaps different process than what I am familiar with...
Cherry
Cherry
About getting mares to conceive and subfertile studs? I am new in the TB world but spent a lot of time in vet school in the eqine Therio. service. Do TB stallion owners not have their studs collected and tested before breeding season starts? Are the mares being ultrasounded so she is bred when the follicle is ready? Are the mares examined before breeding season to see if the uterus is free of infection or other fetus unfreindly conditions? Just questions about the way of TB breeding. Perhaps different process than what I am familiar with...
Cherry
Cherry
ckay,
They are being checked constantly, ultrasounded and checked for infection. Mares who come to the shed after having not concieved the following year are required to have a negative culture before breeding and mares who produced a foal that year and fail to concieve after two or three covers are required to have a negative culture.
After each breeding, the mare's representative is typically shown a sample of the ejaculate from that mating, so the semen is looked at a lot. The Jockey Club publishes fertility stats for each stallion, but they are always a year behind and there are some issues with the data. Saarland is dropping his first crop this year, so no stats would be available for him yet. And unfortunately you can't always rely on the stallion manager or word of mouth to give you an accurate picture.
Lots of stallions get by on lower than normal fertility if they are well bred enough and Saarland is definitely well bred enough to get by.
Also with a popular young sire like Saarland it may be difficult to get in more than once on the same cycle. Henthorn could probably elaborate more on that, but I believe Vivid Dreams did foal this year (a lovely foal if I remember), so he issue's not hers.
They are being checked constantly, ultrasounded and checked for infection. Mares who come to the shed after having not concieved the following year are required to have a negative culture before breeding and mares who produced a foal that year and fail to concieve after two or three covers are required to have a negative culture.
After each breeding, the mare's representative is typically shown a sample of the ejaculate from that mating, so the semen is looked at a lot. The Jockey Club publishes fertility stats for each stallion, but they are always a year behind and there are some issues with the data. Saarland is dropping his first crop this year, so no stats would be available for him yet. And unfortunately you can't always rely on the stallion manager or word of mouth to give you an accurate picture.
Lots of stallions get by on lower than normal fertility if they are well bred enough and Saarland is definitely well bred enough to get by.
Also with a popular young sire like Saarland it may be difficult to get in more than once on the same cycle. Henthorn could probably elaborate more on that, but I believe Vivid Dreams did foal this year (a lovely foal if I remember), so he issue's not hers.I don't have low self-esteem. I have low esteem for everyone else. ~ Daria
Vivid is sound as a dollar, and she was ultrasounded and palpated regularly to be sure she was meeting the stallion right on time. She was even covered two days in a row each time, and had followup exams to be sure she had ovulated. We were pre-warned to get her to him in a timely fashion. Apparently any fertility problems he may have had last year were perceived as due to poor timing, but he must have unresolved issues that have worsened since last season.
One more reason to think twice before sending more than one mare at a time to a new or questionable stud!
Unfortunately, if she doesn't deliver next year, her catalog page will be somewhat worrisome for future prospective buyers:
2003-filly by Western Trader (WHO?)
2004-bred to Buddha, slipped (Too bad!)
2005-colt by Vision and Verse, foal died (paddock accident, but reason won't be obvious on page)
2006-filly by Millennium Wind
2007-bred to Saarland, barren (does she have fertility problems? NO)
One more reason to think twice before sending more than one mare at a time to a new or questionable stud!
Unfortunately, if she doesn't deliver next year, her catalog page will be somewhat worrisome for future prospective buyers:
2003-filly by Western Trader (WHO?)
2004-bred to Buddha, slipped (Too bad!)
2005-colt by Vision and Verse, foal died (paddock accident, but reason won't be obvious on page)
2006-filly by Millennium Wind
2007-bred to Saarland, barren (does she have fertility problems? NO)
Rocking H
She obviously isn't that hard to get in foal. I wonder if the switch to the new farm is just causing a learning curve issue with him.