Breeding plan

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imnumberjuan
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Breeding plan

Postby imnumberjuan » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:27 pm

Anyone with thoughts on a breeding plan?

I am looking as a new broodmare owner and here are some of the questions I am asking myself.

1. When to start covering her. I have given her this year off having come from the track, and look to start in 2008. I would love a feburary foal, though weather is a concern. Any thoughts?

2. Any opinions on when to cover back if/when (touch wood) she foals successfully?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I know there are lots of opinions out there. As a disclaimer, I also understand this is up to my mare co-operating :lol:
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Postby madelyn » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:25 am

Best time to cover her is when she is in heat! :lol:

No.. seriously.. you should start monitoring her now so you can tell if she transitions (stops cycling and then restarts). Most breeding sheds don't open until around Feb 15th. That is accepted by some as the "start" of the season. You can have a vet palpate or ultrasound her to determine the size of the follicle on her ovary and hopefully predict ovulation. You want to cover her as close to ovulation as possible.
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Postby bcassidy » Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:04 pm

Welcome to the show and best of luck to you. Why are you giving her this year off? How old is she? What is her name? What are your goals?
Many people on this board would be more than willing to give you the benefit of our experiences but it would be very helpful if you gave us some more information. I for one have done so many things wrong that I would love to help someone from making the same mistakes. Don't be afraid to ask questions. I think you will find many people willing to help you out.
Are you "breed to race" or commercial? very different objectives.....
Why are you entering this game? How much time and energy do you have to devout to this pursuit? It can be very addicting :lol:
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Postby tbrace » Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:43 pm

Not the most fun, but the most economical, is to buy a mare in foal each year. You can always find good mares in foal for the price of the stud fee or less.

The big farms tack on so many other costs, that the breed fee becomes almost secondary.

But, like I said, it isn't as fun as planning a mating and creating a good broodmare band - just less expensive.

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Postby imnumberjuan » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:08 pm

tbrace - my plans vary from day to day.

My mare is A Regal Reflection, and she is 7 years old. She had 49 races, won 6, was the last mount for David Neusch (win). Last year she went to post 13 times.

I think this mare is a breed to race, though eventually I'd like to upgrade to a some mares I could breed to sell. Though if I get some runners out of her first few crops (I define runners as 40K-50K+ earners by 4 ) I might feel comfortable to sell. On the other hand, if she throws non-runners I will stop breeding her have a friend for life (she has been part of the 'family' for 3 years now - my neices haven't met her yet, with her sweet personality, I would be disowned if they found out she wasn't mine anymore)

As far as giving her a year off, I had red in several places that it was a good idea to give mares a year ff (the latest reference I found was in Tesio's "In his Own Words"

Now I know she has had no major medications/hormones as she was raced by my racing partner and myself now for 3 years. At the end of her three year old campaign she had some nagging injuries after leaving the gate and had collided with several horses (the form line says "showed little" - should say "bumped start").

As far as my goals - well I want to breed some decent runners out of her. (ok, when I let my mind run off it has any offspring winning the major stakes races here in Western Canada - followed with a trip to Woodbine for the fall of the 3 year old season maybe a couple of stakes wins there - runner up for Sovereign award followed by a 4 year old winter campaign in the grade 2s and 3s in Gulfstream, ending with a sovereign award as horse of the year...). Ok- back to reality.

If I had started last year breeding her, I would have opted to breed in British Columbia, better BC bred bonuses down to the bottom claiming level. With the ongoing slot machine struggle at hastings park and with Calgary building a new race track with the almighty casino facility(see other posts on this board) I may bring her back to Alberta.

As far as entering the breeding game, it hit me after watching a particularily bad ride on either my mare or one of my acquaintances that the breeder has the advantage over the owner . It comes from not having to deal with those 100 lb knot heads and their agents. (A common refrain between my racing partner and myself is "Not many of these guys retire to work for NASA") :lol: :lol:

How I got into the game, well I have been around it in one way or another for over a decade, my best friend's dad and my dentist partnered on a stakes winner here in Alberta. After that I moved to the metropolis of Edmonton and met my racing partner, and on a day when I was rained out from work got a "education at the race track". Since then I have developed a love for racing ( I plan my life around seeing the good racing, I have "misplaced" my cellphone at 20 minutes prior to post on all the derby preps the last four years).

I have taken the points on buying mares in foal, unfortunately I am looking at being unable to find something "worth it"(I would have to go say to California - barretts sale). Though there are breeders incentives here (up to $8 500 paid back of the hammer price if bred back to Alberta Stallion, and the addition of Kiradashi locally, is attractive.

As far as planning matings I have a hoot with that. I have taken a look at most systems (there are a couple of interesting nicks as far as she goes with the BC stallions - 6 for 6 runners/winners - though a couple of those mares are the class of western canada).

As far as my year off it will also give me a chance to get out to see some stallions, and some of the new onws up here are having their first and second crops of foals. I also feel more confident in my own judjements and observations.

*whew* Well those are my musings.

Since I made my first post I have made some "loose plans" - I want to see a couple of sires "Mass Market" and "Terrell" before I settle on anything. Of course this all relies on my mare co-operatinig :lol:
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