Hi,
I recently purchased a 2001 Hennessy mare at the Keeneland January sale:
http://www.keeneland.com/sales/jan07/pdfs/1966.pdf
She is a well balanced, mid-sized mare in foal to Mingun.
My present thinking is to breed her this year to Candy Ride ($12,500). I would appreciate your considered opinion on this and would welcome any alternative suggestions in this price range. My intention is to sell the foal as a weanling or yearling.
Hennessy mare
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fastappy
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POUILLY FUISSE
I would like Cuvee for 10K because he apparently produces the precocious type that you sell early. He would be a good cross and his weanlings sell well. On the other hand Why Why Why (Why?) @$7,500 has strong yearling sales and is a stronger cross on that mare. Just some ideas, I didn't dig that deep.
While were at it, how about Congrats at $12,500, can't beat the AP/Storm Cat angle (which you already have), but he might be a hot horse & he's in the neighborhod.
While were at it, how about Congrats at $12,500, can't beat the AP/Storm Cat angle (which you already have), but he might be a hot horse & he's in the neighborhod.
Kafwain
Take a look at Kafwain. Eleven crosses of Mahmoud, The Axe 5x5, four crosses of Tom Fool and Count Fleet, ND 5x6. A very interesting mating. Brother Derek and Battle Won were both inbred to The Axe. Several of this years Derby horses had a strong Mahmoud presence. Give Darley a call and see if you can get in still.
In my opinion, which is just an opinion, all the stallions mentioned so far have some limitations...
Cuvee, Whywhywhy, Kafwain, and Candy Ride will all have had a chance to fail prior to the foal going through the sales ring. The Whywhywhy's and the Kafwain's run this year and the Cuvee's and Candy Ride's run next.
On the other hand, if they run... then you hit the jackpot... especially if you have a good one. Personally, if choosing between these 4, I would go with Kafwain then Candy Ride... of course, I did send mares to both, so I obviously am biased.
Congrats is a consideration, but I just don't know how marketable he will be.
I would be looking at some of the first year boys (although they are all overpriced) and maybe even the second yr. boys (because their won't be a huge problem if you sell as a weanling).
I do like some points fastappy made about pedigree (although I am wondering if fastappy may not be a Gainesway mole
). But, I really like the stallion hpkingjr points to... and his reasons... and, if the Kafwains I have seen can get out of their own way on the track, they will probably be fairly successful.
Oh... also... check your mares conformation for flaws... if she has feet problem, then I would say Candy Ride is a no-go. I also don't think his foals will set the world on fire at 2, but I do think he will prove to be a very, very solid sire.
Cuvee, Whywhywhy, Kafwain, and Candy Ride will all have had a chance to fail prior to the foal going through the sales ring. The Whywhywhy's and the Kafwain's run this year and the Cuvee's and Candy Ride's run next.
On the other hand, if they run... then you hit the jackpot... especially if you have a good one. Personally, if choosing between these 4, I would go with Kafwain then Candy Ride... of course, I did send mares to both, so I obviously am biased.
Congrats is a consideration, but I just don't know how marketable he will be.
I would be looking at some of the first year boys (although they are all overpriced) and maybe even the second yr. boys (because their won't be a huge problem if you sell as a weanling).
I do like some points fastappy made about pedigree (although I am wondering if fastappy may not be a Gainesway mole
). But, I really like the stallion hpkingjr points to... and his reasons... and, if the Kafwains I have seen can get out of their own way on the track, they will probably be fairly successful.
Oh... also... check your mares conformation for flaws... if she has feet problem, then I would say Candy Ride is a no-go. I also don't think his foals will set the world on fire at 2, but I do think he will prove to be a very, very solid sire.
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Hennessy Mare
I am a breed to race person, so I like to hedge my bets as much as possible and still try to get some commercial value. In regards to Candy Ride(Arg), I feel we have been down this road many times before with Gentlemen, et al.
No doubt Candy Ride was an outstanding runner, but the things that concern me is 3 starts per year & two racing seasons. Then go to his sire, Ride The Rails (Which stood a season at Pegasus in Cal, near me) who I really liked & but is he a sire of sires? You have to go to Candy Ride's grandfather, who's leading son at stud, Victory Gallop stands for $10k. I love the Fappiano line, but I like some strains more than others. There's a lot of good Argentine stakes horses in CR's damside but a lot of that does not transmit to N.A. success (imo).
I really like Kafwain and hopefully he will have a more auspicious start than Yonaguska, who is ranked 7th as 1st crop sire but a little disappointing at this juncture (15% wins, $14,539 avg. per starter, 1 stakes winner, AEI .83 vs CI 1.38)as a seemingly precocious type sire. I want to make it clear I'm putting down Yonaguska as he is just starting his career, I'm simply focusing on sire of sire angle and the precocious foals angle. His yearlings averaged $49K (BH) which is very good.
I hope Kafwain hits a home run because he is an outstanding looking individual and was a very precocious, graded stakes winner. Cherokee Run has some nice sons (runners) standing out there so we (you) will have to wait and see if he comes thru.
My angle of "breeding to run" limits my selections. The commercial value & accompanying excitement of 1st crop or 1st year stallions is ancillary for me. In my selections I do try to seek a happy median. I did something I normally would not do, & sent a mare to a 1st crop sire applying my criteria & now holding my breath
. Well ya gotta walk da talk! 
I think what makes this horse racing thing so fun is the guessing, figuring, & knowing these horses fool the experts all the time. Good Luck in 2007!
No doubt Candy Ride was an outstanding runner, but the things that concern me is 3 starts per year & two racing seasons. Then go to his sire, Ride The Rails (Which stood a season at Pegasus in Cal, near me) who I really liked & but is he a sire of sires? You have to go to Candy Ride's grandfather, who's leading son at stud, Victory Gallop stands for $10k. I love the Fappiano line, but I like some strains more than others. There's a lot of good Argentine stakes horses in CR's damside but a lot of that does not transmit to N.A. success (imo).
I really like Kafwain and hopefully he will have a more auspicious start than Yonaguska, who is ranked 7th as 1st crop sire but a little disappointing at this juncture (15% wins, $14,539 avg. per starter, 1 stakes winner, AEI .83 vs CI 1.38)as a seemingly precocious type sire. I want to make it clear I'm putting down Yonaguska as he is just starting his career, I'm simply focusing on sire of sire angle and the precocious foals angle. His yearlings averaged $49K (BH) which is very good.
I hope Kafwain hits a home run because he is an outstanding looking individual and was a very precocious, graded stakes winner. Cherokee Run has some nice sons (runners) standing out there so we (you) will have to wait and see if he comes thru.
My angle of "breeding to run" limits my selections. The commercial value & accompanying excitement of 1st crop or 1st year stallions is ancillary for me. In my selections I do try to seek a happy median. I did something I normally would not do, & sent a mare to a 1st crop sire applying my criteria & now holding my breath
. Well ya gotta walk da talk!
I think what makes this horse racing thing so fun is the guessing, figuring, & knowing these horses fool the experts all the time. Good Luck in 2007!
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Her second dam hit home runs with Gold from the West and Fifth Overture. Gold from the West is by West by West (Gone West x West Turn) and Fifth Overture is by Pulpit (AP Indy x Preach). The Hennessy in the mare brings in the Secretariat line to Mr. Prospector, Mutakddim brings in Mr. Prospector and Seattle Slew with Northern Dancer. Should be a very good cross. He is in the price range you mentioned.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....
Candy Ride has very small feet and they were a (okay, probably the) source of his soundness issues. Otherwise I really like him. He's not big, and he certainly isn't imposing to look at... however as soon as he moves you can see the athleticism. If he can get foals as athletic as he is, then he will be a star.
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Royal Academy will occasionally get a big horse at the sales, but in this country he has a turf sire label which hurts him. Were you in Australia or Brazil, it'd be entirely different.
I do like Madelyn's suggestion of Mutakkdim. He is a very nice sire for his price, and puts out good solid runners.
I do like Madelyn's suggestion of Mutakkdim. He is a very nice sire for his price, and puts out good solid runners.
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