Pedigree Query

I've been offered the below mare at no charge. She is not in foal; in good shape; sound for breeding and not under lights. I don't need another horse but.. What would you do? Does a resulting foal have any market value? I don't think so..

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Can she realistically get in foal and stay in foal? I know you said she is breeding sound, but there can be a wide range of what that really means.

When you say "market value" what do you mean? Do you mean Book 1 at KEE Sept? Or, a horse that could sell okay at a regional sale?

I am assuming this is for the CA market? And, to be honest, I am not very familiar with that market. But, she's a multiple stakes winner of over $100k and a good producer - she's had one foal that earned over $100k and another that came pretty close.

I like her and if she were offered to me and I had the room and a plan for retiring her in the next couple of years, I would be interested in her as a breed to race mare.

zinn21 wrote:I've been offered the below mare at no charge . . .Does a resulting foal have any market value? I don't think so..

I don't think so, either - I'd characterize her as more interesting than marketable. Her German dam lines aren't going to draw much interest in the current sprint-dominated commercial market.

I'm not saying she has no value because I think if bred carefully, she does. But I also think the resulting foal will have no commercial appeal, no matter how carefully you match mare to sire.

[So take her & breed to race! ]

She looks very good to me, from a breed to race standpoint. If you are interested in breeding her to my stallion (Thisnearlywasmine), PM me and I will give you a great discount. Regardless, I like the mare's racing performance & breeding.

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FLEETASCHA, 1972, Fleet Discovery- *Natascha 2nd by =Oise (Fr).
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1977 Rivers Fleet,Ch,f,Canadian Gil 2 12 1 1 3 5,392 0.55
DP = 9-2-7-4-0 DI = 1.93 CD = 0.73
At 2 2nd Miss Spokane S. (5,000)
1978 Fleet N' Fast,Ch,f,Eager Eagle 1 3 0 0 0 90 0.03
DP = 4-8-5-5-0 DI = 1.93 CD = 0.50
1979 Barren
1980 Garvin,Dkbbr,f,Just The Time 2 8 0 2 0 1,992 0.24
DP = 6-4-3-9-0 DI = 1.10 CD = 0.32
1981 JASON'S DRUMMER,Dkbbr,c,Drum Fire 8 77 11 12 11 202,080 ( 75) 3.87
DP = 11-6-3-3-1 DI = 3.36 CD = 0.96 AWD = 6.75
At 2 Won Joe Gottstein Futurity (Lr) (50,000), 2nd San Mateo S. (40,000),
Stripling S. (20,000)
At 3 2nd Determine S. (40,000), Tacoma H. (20,000)
At 4 3rd (Q) (40,000) (SA), Space Needle H. (O) (27,500)
At 6 3rd Ernest Finley Handicap (O) (20,000)
1982 Eiffel Power,Dkbbr,f,Balance Of Power Unraced
DP = 11-5-2-6-0 DI = 2.43 CD = 0.88
1983 Trooper Fleet,Dkbbr,c,Table Run 2 11 2 2 0 2,495 0.21
North America Dirt Sprints 2 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Routes 9 2 2 0 2,495
DP = 6-2-3-13-0 DI = 0.66 CD = 0.04 AWD = 8.16
1984 Re Bar Won,Dkbbr,c,Flag Officer 2 11 0 0 0 370 0.02
North America 2 YO Record 2 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 6 0 0 0 370
North America Dirt Routes 5 0 0 0 0
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 0
DP = 10-6-6-3-3 DI = 2.11 CD = 0.61
1985 Fleet Report,B,f,Staff Writer 1 3 0 1 0 3,200 0.98
North America Dirt Routes 3 0 1 0 3,200
DP = 7-4-7-4-0 DI = 1.93 CD = 0.64
1987 Barren
1988 ERRANTRY,Dkbbr,f,Knights Choice 3 16 6 2 3 127,921 (104) 6.66
North America 2 YO Record * 2 2 0 0 16,335 ( 95)
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 1 5,250 ( 90)
North America Dirt Sprints 10 3 1 2 49,910 (104)
North America Dirt Routes 4 3 1 0 72,761 (101)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 1 4,500 ( 80)
DP = 10-4-1-3-0 DI = 4.14 CD = 1.17 AWD = 6.83
At 3 Won Vinehill Ranch Handicap (O) (30,000), Fly To Win Farm Handicap
(O) (30,000), 2nd Santa Clara Invitational Hcp. (R) (O) (50,000), 3rd
Savannah Slew Handicap (O) (30,000), Fairfield S. (R) (O) (30,000)
At 4 Won Lafayette Breeders' Cup Hcp. (O) (25,000)
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
WASSEP 1989 186 $28,000 $14,953 ylg ( 2/19) NA
1989 Sharp Kitten,Dkbbr,f,Sharper One 1 8 1 0 0 2,920 ( 69) 0.30
North America Dirt Sprints 8 1 0 0 2,920 ( 69)
DP = 6-3-2-3-0 DI = 2.50 CD = 0.86 AWD = 6.50
1990 Slipped
1991 Booshay,Ch,g,Drouilly (Fr) 5 54 9 2 12 20,540 ( 81) 0.26
North America 2 YO Record 5 0 0 0 870 ( 64)
North America Dirt Sprints 8 0 0 0 1,014 ( 66)
North America Dirt Routes 46 9 2 12 19,526 ( 81)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 8 1 0 4 3,188 ( 76)
DP = 7-3-6-8-0 DI = 1.18 CD = 0.38 AWD = 8.17
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
WASSEP 1992 59 $12,000 $4,988 ylg ( 1/ $2,500
1992 All Knight Long,Dkbbr,f,Knights Choice 3 18 1 2 0 9,320 ( 69) 0.32
North America 2 YO Record 6 0 0 0 1,140 ( 62)
North America Dirt Sprints 18 1 2 0 9,320 ( 69)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 450 ( 67)
DP = 10-4-1-3-0 DI = 4.14 CD = 1.17 AWD = 6.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
WASSEP 1993 43 $46,000 $14,067 ylg ( 1/18) $5,000
1993 Won For The Nipper,Dkbbr,c,Tough Knight 3 5 0 0 0 292 ( 58) 0.02
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 192 ( 55)
North America Dirt Sprints 5 0 0 0 292 ( 58)
DP = 4-2-1-3-0 DI = 1.86 CD = 0.70
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
WASDEC 1994 137 $25,000 $8,760 ylg ( 1/ 5) $1,500
1994 Knight Deposit,Dkbbr,c,Tough Knight 2 14 2 0 1 8,379 ( 81) 0.29
North America Dirt Sprints 14 2 0 1 8,379 ( 81)
DP = 4-2-1-3-0 DI = 1.86 CD = 0.70 AWD = 5.50
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
WASDEC 1995 204 $30,000 $12,444 ylg ( 2/16) NA
1995 Red Bud,Ch,g,Country Light 2 9 1 0 1 5,275 ( 69) 0.26
North America Dirt Sprints 6 1 0 0 4,200 ( 68)
North America Dirt Routes 3 0 0 1 1,075 ( 69)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 0 0 1 715 ( 69)
DP = 7-3-3-3-2 DI = 1.77 CD = 0.56 AWD = 6.50
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
WASSEP 1996 112 $6,000 $7,219 ylg ( 6/11) $3,000
1996 Altazarr's Lady,Dkbbr,f,Altazarr 2 14 2 3 3 11,585 ( 75) 0.36
North America Dirt Sprints 12 2 3 3 11,225 ( 75)
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 0 360 ( 59)
DP = 5-1-3-3-0 DI = 1.67 CD = 0.67 AWD = 6.50
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
WASAUG 1997 62 $9,000 $7,464 ylg ( 2/14) $2,000
1997 Slipped
1998 Classic Discovery,B,c,Wanpum 2 17 2 0 2 6,937 ( 73) 0.15
North America Dirt Sprints 11 2 0 0 5,710 ( 72)
North America Dirt Routes 6 0 0 2 1,227 ( 73)
DP = 4-2-1-3-0 DI = 1.86 CD = 0.70 AWD = 6.50
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
WASDEC 1999 0180 $8,000 $8,000 ylg ( 1/ 1) NA
TEXMAR 2000 0342 $3,500 $3,500 2yo ( 1/ 1) NA

I decided to pass on her. Just thought there was too much downside and not an expense I wished to take on at this time.

Appy, I visited your stud a few years back. What a classy guy he is.

Thanks Zinn21! Best Wishes in 2008!