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ideal crosses on this mare
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:36 am
by lotsahorsin
I have just acquired this mare-I am looking for ideal crosses for her for 2009.
www.pedigreequery.com/mitey+jenny
I've just been out of breeding TBs long enough to not quite be sure what she would cross nicely with.
She has the typical Olden Times shoulder, a nice short back and a decent hip. Nice refinement to her-just enough to keep her looking like a mare.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:42 am
by aardvark
Danzig would be my first choice followed by Storm Cat
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:55 pm
by griff
Take a look at INGOT. He's by Seeking the Gold and out of a G-1 Storm cat dam with $864k in winnings and a race record of 20/9/5/4.
Best of all he's in Ontario at Avila acres
griff
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:02 am
by freshman
aardvark wrote:Danzig would be my first choice followed by Storm Cat
I'd worry about fertility problems with these two choices. Storm Cat is pensioned and Danzig is, well, dead.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:00 am
by aardvark
freshman wrote:aardvark wrote:Danzig would be my first choice followed by Storm Cat
I'd worry about fertility problems with these two choices. Storm Cat is pensioned and Danzig is, well, dead.
I cant get you a real good deal on danzig though.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:44 am
by Rick
She is tale female to Frizette which makes me want to think about a Mr Prospector or Seattle Slew line stallion. In addition, she also carries Missy Baba thru Sauce Boat. Based on this, I would look at an AP Indy line stallion or someting like Lemon Drop Kid or Uncle Abbie. Another stallion I like a lot with lots of Frizette would be Seattle Fitz.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:12 am
by soundfast
Raj Waki might be nice with her. He produces sound runners 83% winners to runner average earnings per runner of $120,600. 6% SW 28% blacktype to runners and 24 starts per runner. He has been seriously underpatronized and overlooked and he could go very nicely with your mare. He is at Gardiner Farms in Ontario and his stud fee is only $1,000. Canadian. That is probably the biggest bargain in Canada. He has average earnings comparable to Storm Cat. Raj Waki is by Miswaki a son of Mr. Prospector and his dam is by Silent Screen a son of Prince John.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:46 am
by madelyn
I also like Ingot a bit for this mare. Maybe a bit more, Weather Warning. Also Saffir or Shelter.
Sauce Boat as a BM sire has thrown 8 GSW's, two with Storm Cat or a son.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:18 pm
by Stedfast Farm
Thinking a little outside the box, and a favorite of mine in your neck of the woods is Legal Jousting.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:48 pm
by lotsahorsin
Thanks for the input-I had thought putting her to a Mr. Prospector would be ideal but thought I should check.
I like the pedigree of Raj Waki-just a matter of seeing if conformationally he will complement her or not-and yes it would be a deal.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:47 am
by griff
Suggest you compare the tail-female lines of Raj Waki and Ingot before making your choice.
my openion is that a breeding stallion's dam is about twice as important as his sire.
griff
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:43 am
by soundfast
Ingot had a measley 9 starts 2 wins is by Seeking The Gold average starts per runner 12 dam by Storm Cat average starts 11. Ingot never won or placed in a stakes race. He just entered stud and is unproven. His dam(Catinca) has no other winners. She was offered at Keeneland Nov. 2007 and then outed see Hip #386.Raj Waki is a stakes winner who raced in England and has proven himself to be a good sire of sound runners and he sired TOO LATE NOW CH. 3 year old filly in Canada. Raj Waki's dam produced another Stakes winner named Agitated Lady. I am sure he is doing a great job of "improving his mares".
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:50 am
by griff
I still recommend you check out tyhe bottom three tail female mares for both
griff
I would recommend Bright Launch
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:40 pm
by Keith
For your mare I would recommend
Bright Launch by Relaunch-Burnished Bright by Well Decorated
line breeding
Missy Baba 3x5
War Relic 5x6x6
Man O' War 6x6x7x7
Nasrullah 5x6x6
Keith