What does everyone think of this stud

Runnerandrider · Postby **Runnerandrider** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:46 pm

Registered name Heros Pastime.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/heros+pastime

fastappy · Postby **fastappy** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:11 pm

If you intend on breeding race horses then Heros Pastime would not be a good choice. The prima facie evidence is submitted below.

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GOLDEN CAKE, 1985, John's Gold- Cinnamon Cake by Peace Corps.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1991 Hobeau Gem,Ch,c,Exclusive Gem 1 12 1 2 1 5,547 ( 76) 0.28
North America Turf Record 3 0 0 0 0 ( 76)
North America Dirt Sprints 2 0 0 0 102 ( 62)
North America Dirt Routes 7 1 2 1 5,445 ( 74)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 0
DP = 7-5-17-1-0 DI = 2.16 CD = 0.60 AWD = 8.18
1992 Spirt Of Suwannee,Ch,f,Chas Conerly
IN PUERTO RICO 1 7 0 0 0 420
DP = 7-5-4-0-0 DI = 7.00 CD = 1.19
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
OBSAPR 1994 1083 $3,700 $6,980 2yo ( 4/ 5) $2,500
1993 Foal Died
1996 Nedlog,Ch,g,Tasso 3 23 3 9 0 92,050 ( 94) 1.76
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 0 ( 61)
North America Turf Record 4 0 1 0 6,980 ( 94)
North America Dirt Sprints 3 0 0 0 0 ( 70)
North America Dirt Routes 16 3 8 0 85,070 ( 94)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 4 1 2 0 31,000 ( 94)
DP = 10-10-12-0-0 DI = 4.33 CD = 0.94 AWD = 8.33
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
OBSAUG 1997 992 $2,700 $7,297 ylg (11/11) $5,000
1997 Heros Pastime,Ch,c,Buckaroo Unraced
DP = 9-13-18-0-0 DI = 3.44 CD = 0.78

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CINNAMON CAKE, 1975, Peace Corps- Nicely Spiced by Beau Gar.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1980 Unnamed,c,Ramsinga
DP = 1-3-12-0-0 DI = 1.67 CD = 0.31
1981 Candy Yam,Ro,c,Sawbones 4 48 4 3 5 13,750 0.32
DP = 0-5-12-1-0 DI = 1.57 CD = 0.22 AWD = 8.50
1982 Spicey Bones,Ro,c,Sawbones 4 55 6 8 4 103,060 1.89
North America 2 YO Record 7 0 0 1 4,260
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 24 1 4 4 35,100
North America Dirt Routes 29 5 4 0 67,960
North America Muddy/Sloppy 5 0 0 2 3,000
DP = 0-5-12-1-0 DI = 1.57 CD = 0.22 AWD = 8.75
1983 Should Be Fast,Ch,f,Duck Dance 7 81 14 5 13 69,797 ( 77) 1.01
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 70
North America Dirt Sprints 75 14 5 13 69,097 ( 77)
North America Dirt Routes 5 0 0 0 630
North America Muddy/Sloppy 8 1 0 0 1,314 ( 68)
DP = 0-1-8-1-0 DI = 1.00 CD = 0.00 AWD = 6.07
1984 Barren
1985 Golden Cake,Ch,f,John's Gold 2 17 3 2 1 15,214 0.88
North America Dirt Sprints 14 2 2 1 12,294
North America Dirt Routes 3 1 0 0 2,920
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 0 1 0 2,250
DP = 5-9-14-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.68 AWD = 6.67
1986 Barren
1987 With Strawberries,B,f,Maudlin 5 50 7 11 10 250,656 (102) 4.81
North America Turf Record 4 0 2 1 18,080 ( 96)
North America Dirt Sprints 44 7 9 8 228,736 (102)
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 1 3,840 ( 89)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 350 ( 83)
DP = 6-7-7-0-0 DI = 4.71 CD = 0.95 AWD = 6.00
At 4 3rd Iroquois S. (R) (O) (75,000)
At 5 2nd Iroquois S. (R) (O) (75,000)
1988 Johnny's Cookie,B,f,John's Gold 4 31 2 3 1 4,670 ( 77) 0.13
North America 2 YO Record 2 0 0 0 0 ( 58)
North America Dirt Sprints 28 2 3 1 4,580 ( 74)
North America Dirt Routes 3 0 0 0 90 ( 77)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 6 0 0 1 325 ( 77)
DP = 5-9-14-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.68 AWD = 6.25
1989 Best Cake,B,c,Premiership 1 6 0 0 0 480 ( 69) 0.05
North America Dirt Sprints 6 0 0 0 480 ( 69)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 40
DP = 8-4-16-0-0 DI = 2.50 CD = 0.71
1990 Barren
1991 Patty's Cinnamon,Ch,f,Chas Conerly 3 16 5 2 2 36,220 ( 90) 1.58
North America Turf Record 11 4 1 2 30,290 ( 90)
North America Dirt Sprints 5 1 1 0 5,930 ( 72)
DP = 6-3-5-0-0 DI = 4.60 CD = 1.07 AWD = 5.10
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
OBSAPR 1993 1127 $18,000 $6,020 2yo ( 1/10) $2,500
1992 Barren
1993 Barren
1994 Cake Dancer,Ch,f,Fire Dancer Unraced
DP = 5-3-12-0-0 DI = 2.33 CD = 0.65
1995 Barren

Crystal · Postby **Crystal** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:52 am

There is no reason a stallion like this should be breeding. Geld him and make him a riding horse.

Runnerandrider · Postby **Runnerandrider** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:17 pm

I appreciate the opinions. He belongs to a farm up the road and I was more curious about him then anything. Thank you again.

Kelly Kip · Postby **Kelly Kip** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:12 pm

I know this family, as I worked at Hobeau farm with some of Cinnamon Cake's babies. The one, Spicey Bones, was bought by a friend of mine and made into a jumper.

Runnerandrider · Postby **Runnerandrider** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:12 pm

I believe that. This guy is 17.2 and built like a jumper. It's a shame he has just been sitting in the field all his life.