which mare is a better match for stallion

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which mare is a better match for stallion

Postby mbj » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:22 am

I want to produce an upper level event horse, and would like to breed one of my mares to A Fine Romance, who is standing near me for this breeding season (from Canada). All horses are tb, correct in mind and conformation, and both the stallion and the older mare were successful sporthorses. The others are too young. Could you give me an order of preferred bloodline blends? All are listed on the pedigreequery database, but I am not sure how to link here, so I will list them by name:

A Fine Romance (stallion)
Highland Fab
Ceilidh Dancer
Snake Lips
Nosh

Thanks in advance.

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Postby ragsdaj » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:32 pm

probably too late to help you but I liked snake lips first then highland fab

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Postby mbj » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:46 pm

Thanks! We currently have Snake Lips in training as a show hunter and she loves it. Nosh is in training as an eventer and also doing very well. Ceilidh is going to be at a training facility as well during mid-marchtot mid-May, so it looks like "my" girl gets the guy.
Would love to know how you made your pic as it would help me learn more, if you have time to respond.

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Postby ragsdaj » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:19 pm

I made my selction based on a Round Table bias and I would be breeding the female progeny to a racing sire.

With snake lips the progeny two sire lines take me back to Nasrullah and Round Table. I also like natashka and moccasin in this pedigree.

Highland as a second choice gives you Nasrullah on top and Nijinsky/Northern Dancer on the bottom. I like the Round Table & DR Fager in this pedigree.

I chose snake lips over Highland because Round Table was the sire line wheresas in Highland Round Table is there, just not in the sire line position.

I am sure others on the board could probably give you some better advice.

I think through your process of elimination Highland Fab is an excellent choice.

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Postby mbj » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:53 pm

Thanks so much! Do you have suggestions about where I can read about the difference it makes for a horse to be in the sire line as opposed to elsewhere in a pedigree? I have read a bit about how important the tail female line is, and also I think that if a horse appears twice, you want it once in a sire position and the other in a sire of a dam position, rather than both times as a sire of a male. I sort of assumed that was because it is easier to have a fancy sire of males as they have more progeny than the dams do. Or is it instead something genetic?

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Postby ragsdaj » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:14 pm

mbj there a million philosophies on breeding horses. I am not the one to direct you to a book although I am sure there are some good ones.

My preference would be to try and end up with a pedigree that looks like Roberto 1969. The front end has no color and the back end looks like a christmas tree. Just my opinion.

There are some on this board that really do pedigree analysis and could get into the grit with you on it though.

You might try making a post in the pedigree analysis section to get a better response.

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Postby mbj » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:56 pm

what a great description-- a christmas tree! I take that to mean hybrid vigor up close and lots of linebreeding farther back?

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Postby ragsdaj » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:11 am

correct paraphrase.

It helps too when the linebreeding in the back are quality racing individuals.

P.S. I am not currently a subscriber this month so I did not run a hypomate to see if you had a lights or not. I made the choice on Round Table positions.

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Postby mbj » Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:20 am

I am a past but not current subscriber as well. What are lights?

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Postby ragsdaj » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:03 am

sorry still using my tree lights analogy. I did not look at the linebreeding in the back end of your choices enough to know if it would have effected my decision.

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Postby mbj » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:25 am

oops, my bad! And here I thought I was gouing to learn a cool new term/slang!