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JimP
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Breeding decision need help!

Postby JimP » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:32 am

Hi Guys,

I am thinking of sending a mare to Sahm but can't decide for sure. If I decide I can't figure out which mare suits him if at all. Help!!

mares:
Smart N' Char, by Colony Light out of Smart and Charming?
Labeeb's Petite, by Labeeb out of Rino's Petite?

Or better selection of Stallion for these two?
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Postby ragsdaj » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:32 am

I thought smart n char was a better choice for sahm.

I like Sultry Song, Dumaani, and David Copperfield for char respectively.
I like Repriced, Private Terms, and David Copperfield for Petite resp.

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Postby JimP » Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:54 am

Hi Guys,

Ragsdaj, thanks for your suggestions I really appreciate it. I never even thought of Private Terms for Labeeb's Petite. It looks like a nice match on paper. It would really be great if she through a filly.
Thanks.
JimP

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Postby Colonel » Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:37 am

Hi JP, I read an interesting article at "Pedigreepost.com" on the theory behind the success of KITTENS JOY. It's an article on inbreeding, and I thought you would find it interesting concerning your mare LABEEBS PETITE. Here is a snippet of the article, and all credit and a big THANK YOU to Pedigree Post;

"one could take a mare named Fairy Bridge, an English Highweight at two and excellent broodmare (please see Sadlers Wells, Fairy King, and Tate’s Gallery) who crossed the very important stallion Hail To Reason and the very important mare Thong; and cross her with a stallion named Lear Fan, a GI Winner at Two and a far above average sire who crossed Hail To Reason with Thong’s full brother Lt Stevens. Thus you will have created a situation where the Hail To Reason genes coming through to the foal will be selected for the quality of crossing good with Thong and Lt Stevens and the Thong and Lt Stevens genes will have been selected for the quality of crossing good with Hail To Reason (talk about synergy!).

And as a matter of fact, out of only 47 examples of crossing Lear Fan and Fairy Bridge born after 2002 in the PedigreeQuery Database (and out of these fully 11 were in fact born in 2002 and thus are only halfway through their 3YO Year), we find the exceptional runner Kitten’s Joy, the winner of the Joe Hirsch Invitational (GI), Secretariat Stakes (GI), Virginia Derby (G3), Tropical Park Derby (G3), Crown Royal American Turf (G3), American Turf Stakes (G3), and Palm Beach Stakes (G3) besides finishing second in the 2004 Breeder’s Cup Turf (GI) and winning the Eclipse Award for the said year as the Champion American Turf Performer.

Also we find the Treble G2W Policy Maker and The Kiddykid, a winner of the Duke of York (GB-G2) and the Greenslands Stakes (IRE-G3), crossing Lear Fan and Fairy Bridge."

As a result, it could be worth considering sons of Sadler's Wells, such as Austin Powers, Northern Spur, Powerscourt, and Perfect Soul. I especially like Perfect Soul, as the BOLD RULER in his pedigree nicks with your mare.

Here is the entire article:

http://www.pedigreepost.com/archives/Wh ... eding.html

Regards
Colonel

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Postby ragsdaj » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:40 pm

I thought private terms was a solid match on paper too.

In regards to the colonel posting, I have Powerscourt on my list of stallions to watch for different reasons, but I think he will be a good one in the future. I have a young mare booked for this season already and depending on what her past offspring do will help me decide if I think 12.5K is a good investment.