Pedigree Query

I have the opportunity to pick up a Lil Tyler filly who is currently unraced. If I purchase her and race her for a season or two, I'd like to breed her to make racing babies. I love little Tyler' runners.

Any stallion suggestions would be most welcome!

Thanks

Consider Mud Route.

What is the name of the mare you're thinking about buying?

Madera Velvet

I like Lil Tyler because he is producing TB with strong bone and good width.

I have seen many of LT offspring and I havent seen any TB with thin spindle legs.

LT has 12 crosses of non-(Phalaris) and only 4 crosses of (Phalaris) in his 5 generation pedigree. This is why Lil Tyler is producing strong bone, as his pedigree is an outcross for those many crosses of (Phalaris) mares he is being bred to.

Go ahead with your plans and purchase the filly.

Thanks Louis!!

We currently own a Lil Tyler by the name of Real Temptation--and we just love him. While the theoretical matings computer on this site doesn't think much of him, the real world reality is that he pays for the lesser perfomers in my barn. Our Synastry, Siberian Summer, and Souvenir Copy runners (cripples) owe a debt of gratitude to RT. Hence, we are currently looking for more Lil Tylers and hoping for the best.

BTW Louis you make a good point about bone. Lil Tylers are produced almost exclusively by Madera Thoroughbreds, who own the stallion. The seasonally mild climate in Madera allows for foals born here to be turned-out in large 40 acre irrigated pastures year-round. A new born may only spend a few days in a stall during their first 2-3 years of life! This is simply outstanding at building strong bones and soft tissue during these important, formative years. Lil Tyler's renowned durability may not only be genetic but also environmental, as well.

Lil Tylers tend to be--- well--little, so keep that in mind too when you are selecting stallions.

Hay Burners wrote:Thanks Louis!!

We currently own a Lil Tyler by the name of Real Temptation--and we just love him. While the theoretical matings computer on this site doesn't think much of him, the real world reality is that he pays for the lesser perfomers in my barn. Our Synastry, Siberian Summer, and Souvenir Copy runners (cripples) owe a debt of gratitude to RT. Hence, we are currently looking for more Lil Tylers and hoping for the best.

Isn't that the truth! A friend of mine has a horse we've nicknamed "The ATM" because he always fires, always gets at least a piece of the purse and keeps the whole barn afloat. He's not the best bred and he's in a plain brown wrapper but he's all race horse. Good luck with yours!

Did you see that Super Strut, by Lil Tyler, won the Crystal Water Handicap at Santa Anita today?

Was the trainer of Super Strut Jorge Gutterrize, as this trainer has trained many of Lil Tyler's offspring. When I mentioned the strong bone of those Lil Tyler's the trainer agreed with my observations ?

Did you see that Super Strut, by Lil Tyler, won the Crystal Water Handicap at Santa Anita today?

Yes, I did. That was quite a race.

The big, beautiful ranch house at Madera Thoroughbreds has a sign on it stating, "this house built by Lil Tyler". LT may not produce many graded winners but he pumps out sturdy, dependable ponies that bring home some nice checks. This is the second year he's into pension and the last opportunity to pick up a fresh Lil Tyler starter.

Madera's next big horse is Birdonthewire. At 17 hands he is a quite an imposing figure. He's got some big shoes to fill, however.