Bold Ruler

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Bold Ruler

Postby Sheikh » Thu May 04, 2006 8:16 am

Hi , I'm trying to remember something, I know matings between Bold Ruler and one other top sire was a complete failure, was it Sadlers Wells ? Can anyone advise me please.

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Postby LaTroienne » Thu May 04, 2006 8:17 am

Sadler's Wells was born after Bold Ruler died....

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Postby Sheikh » Thu May 04, 2006 8:20 am

Maybe it was it Sadlers wells on bold ruler mares than .

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Postby Rick » Thu May 04, 2006 8:49 am

You are probably thinking about Buckpasser. I don't think there many Bold Ruler over Buckpasser mare tha went on to be stakes winners alhough it was tried multiple times.

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Postby Sheikh » Thu May 04, 2006 8:53 am

Maybe that was it , it was an unmitigated failure that defied all the stats.

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Postby larrygene » Thu May 04, 2006 9:10 am

I believe I've read there was never a stakes winner come from Northern Dancer crossed with a Bold Ruler mare. I might be wrong, as the older I get, my memory seems to fade dimmer and dimmer. It was either a stakes winner or maybe a graded stakes winner.

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Postby Sheikh » Thu May 04, 2006 9:33 am

Larry

I think that's the one I was thinking of, two of the most succesful sires of their time and together they where completely useless, fuel for the nick people.

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Postby louis finochio » Thu May 04, 2006 6:29 pm

Bold Ruler crossed with mares by Princequillo (Prince Rose) sire line.

Secretariat, Bold Ruler---Somethingroyal, byPrincequillo was a beneficary of this cross.
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Re: Bold Ruler

Postby BJ » Sat May 06, 2006 3:07 pm

Sheikh wrote:Hi , I'm trying to remember something, I know matings between Bold Ruler and one other top sire was a complete failure, was it Sadlers Wells ? Can anyone advise me please.


Buckpasser and Bold Ruler produced a much smaller group of good horses and a larger group of horses that couldn't withstand training. The theory was Bold Ruler was prone to pass on arthritis and Buckpasser passed on knee issues. The two combined made for soundness issues in a high percentage of cases. (Per RaceHorse Breeding Theories)