What bloodlines on mares...

[Joie]

...work work well with this stallion:

http://www.shenanigansstables.homestead ... llion.html

[LaTroienne]

Temperence Hill has a cross of Mumtaz Begum and Fairway.....I'd work with that.

[syndeis]

here are some names to look at pedigree to get a look at some Temperence Hill winners.......
A penny is a penny
Her temper
Hill Pass
Temperence Time
til forbid
dust on the bottle.

Going back to Grandpa.......there are a number of horses to list but to summarize what my eyes saw,

Successes DR. Fager and Rough'n Tumble
Hail to Reason linebreeding
Nasrullah several different lines
Northern Dancer several different lines.
some other lines showed up but not as often as these.

is this your boy or considering a breeding?

[kimberley mine]

Stop the Music with a Dr Fager mare led to high-class runner Cure the Blues. An extended reverse cross of the same worked quite well last year (Holy Bull over a Stop The Music mare)...so Great Above, Holy Bull, and Housebuster mares might be a nice place to start.

Reinforcing Temperence Hill's strain of Tom Fool through Buckpasser or Dunce worked on at least two occasions (1 SW and one good allowance runner).

You stallion's dam has a double of Teddy/Sweetheart, which makes an interesting breeding pattern when combined with Raise a Native (the most common modern source of Case Ace). Even better, this is a rare son strain of Case Ace. Since your stallion is free of RaN, this would be a prime strain to introduce. Temperence Hill worked reasonably well with Raise a Native.

[syndeis]

KM

Those are excellent suggestions. I think it is partly because I agree with them all.

[Joie]

Thanks for the input. In response, he is my stallion. I currently only have 2 thoroughbred mares. Only one of them is at home. I foolishly leased the other one out last year and she may or may not be used as an embryo transfer recipient this year. SHE'S my "big earner" mare...over $92,000 and retired sound. The filly I have has Raise A Native in her pedigree. She is by Exploit, and out of an Affirmed daughter. Her name is Exploisive Delight. She has been covered by the stallion, and will be checked next week to see is she's in foal or open. I am considering buying a mare with Mr. Prospector lines. Her name is One Two Ponche. She earned about $35,000 on the track. I had considered offering Wicklow to a few approved mares for free this season, but it is getting rather late...
I just don't know how to market a stallion. Never done it, never planned to! He is going to be retrained when he's ready and will hopefully be used for breeding for sport as well (I have Warmblood mares), but he has a long ways to go before he will be proven in that renue.

[kimberley mine]

Here is a link to recent family happenings:

http://www.keenland.com/sales/sep05/pdfs/3787.pdf

This colt sold for $15,000.

Her 2001 Louis Quatorze filly was named Go Gale, and RNA'd with cover to Defrere for $6000 last December at the F-T Midatlantic December Mixed.

Has this horse ever raced over fences? His family tree is chock-a-block with major stamina influences (Vaugely Noble, Temperence Hill, Caucasus, Prince Bio, etc) and well-known US chase sires (particularly Northern Baby). If he still has the will to race, and is sound, trying him with eventing or chasing might provide the publicity that a young stallion needs.

[Joie]

Thanks so much. I am feverently looking at broodmares, now. Of course, I am looking for conformation for sport as well...since I breed Trakehners and Anglo-Trakehners, primarily. I really would like to find a nice, reasonably priced mare for him, and since most of my girls are "old" I am hoping to stay under age 10 unless I KNOW the mare will settle and carry to term (or at least very likely).
I have a couple I am considering, and I am going to write down more of the bloodlines and do some more searching.

Wicklow has not gone over fences yet. He just bowed March 4th, during his last race. So, he was on stall rest for about 5 weeks, then he's been in a very small paddock with an attached stall here ever since. He had a few days at first when he was very sore here...but he was fresh off stall rest and eager to meet the herd. Now that he's settled in, he pretty much ignores them and they him unless a mare is active engaging him in conversation. In fact, I have removed his wraps, now, and he moves comfortably. I have not had an ultrasound done, son in all honesty I have no true idea of the extent of the injury...but it is a medium bow, not high, not low. No heat at this point, and it seems to be "set". No softness, no swelling. I really like his personality. He is not overly vocal, or "studdy". He is very mannerly to handle, for the most part, including breeding. I would like to give him plenty of time off for now...but American Warmblood inspections are late June (he'd need to just work in hand), and American Trakehner Association inspection are in November. My friend wants to take him to AWS, and I would really like to bring him to ATA...but he'll need to learn to free-jump AND go under saddle for that one. So, this year may be a bit of a stretch. We have just a few days shy of 6 months to get him ready for that one. I don't want to push him too soon. I don't want to remove his chances at having a future outside of breeding.

[Karie]

look for a silver Deputy mare..
Look at the stallion Ulises... his leading earner is a VERY nice colt named Rockem Sockem.. out of a silver Deputy mare

look for a mare with those lines

[Joie]

Well! Wicklow Highlands settled his first mare! My thoroughbred mare, Exploisive Delight was checked IN FOAL yesterday! YEE HAW! This is my first REAL homebred baby, ever. I am pretty happy...and relieved, since he had never covered a mare before and I was worried about fertility. Phew!

[Pan Zareta]

Congratulations! WH really was a grand warrior on the track. Here's hoping for a fine foal for him and Exploisive Delight next year.

[Joie]

Thank you so much. I am very excited. ED will be getting extra rubs and pats from me each day, that's for sure. I had considered just keeping her pastured now, but I think she really looks forward to her "work" (basic retraining in a casual setting), so I think if it keeps her fit and happy, we'll continue to ride.
Wicklow was quite a workhorse. And he is very easy to handle, too. He has a good mind, though I think he REALLY wants to be out on pasture with the herd...no such luck for him with a recovering bowed tendon.
Thanks again for responding,
Joie

[Pan Zareta]

The mother-to-be MUST be kept petted, treated, happy & fit, at least mine put up a sign to that effect. (There was an in-foal filly or mare running in one of the stakes races on the Derby undercard last week, but I can't recall who it was.)

[Joie]

OK. How about either of these mares for Wicklow Highlands? Both have decent earnings, though Stella has never had a TB foal (do you believe that? Bred to QH's.)

Determined Stella

S Table Dancer

In other news, Wick is in retraining now, in preparation for inspections with the American Trakehner Association in November. The head of the inspection committee is very impressed with his race record, and his number of starts with a history of soundness.

His trainer works primarily with Hanovarians and Warmbloods, and so his gaits are not comparable to what she is used to, but he is doing well. She says he is extraordinarily smart and trainable. He did have a minor setback recently in some vague lameness, but he is being evaluated by the farrier today, and we suspect an abcess.

I very much look forward to getting to spend some time with him after inspections, before he starts covering mares. I am working on getting fencing options for a seperate pasture for just Wicklow and my aged mare, Savana, who he enjoys spending time with, even when he ISN'T trying to breed her She is very tolerant, and not overly nasty with her reprimands.

Thanks in advance for any input on the above mentioned TB mares.
Joie