Vote for the most overpriced new stallion

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Postby journeyman » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:00 am

Over my 30 years of doing this, I have discovered that good horses overcome their problems and don't need excuses.

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Postby KMO_racing » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:51 am

I am not saying anything about breeding to him. I am going to say I have seen him, he is gorgreous, he does not have a long back he has a short back looks like a pinhookers dream everyone knows he ran his breeze in unheard of time. He is very balanced, without any visual flaws. That said I do not agree anywhere close to what he sold for in the ring. However he is a gorgeous well balanced colt. He took a serious injury before he ever raced, they should have not even tried to race him. Is he over priced, in my opinion heck yea, but what isn't pver priced in FL that stands at the what people call the commercial farms. I do know that Hartly Derenzo is offering some inovative deals this year one of the only facilities in FL working deals. In this economy you need the deals if you are going to breed.
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Postby Vindicated » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:35 am

toadie wrote:Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I don't "get" why some of you think TGM is gorgeous. He's down hill, long backed, short necked and I haven't even seen any pictures of his legs good enough to judge.
Even if they paid the mare owners, it wouldn't be worth it IMHO. OH yeah, I guess if you're talking about QH halter classes then you may be on to something. Those horses are so deformed they can't perform either :lol:


OMG-Toadie is 100% correct...
I had honestly never paid a lick of attention to how this horse looks-as ALL of the pictures I have seen of him have been just his head and some neck or running-and most horses look good running. there is a reason most pics of The Green Monkey are in motion or just a head shot-
HE IS A GOOFY LOOKING CRITTER

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Postby Joltman » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:13 pm

This must be an 'eyes of the beholder' thing. The best and brightest (at least the deepest pockets) would probably only go to $1mil only on a horse like a racehorse. Let let alone $16 mil.

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Postby magic code » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:24 pm

How about Coolmore's The Leopard? They sold him as a yearling and then bought him back as a 2YO. :?:

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Postby journeyman » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:02 am

Only one stallion (Not for Love)among the top 20 on the list in 2008 was not a stake winner. None among the top 50 stallions in the country ran and never won. At the end of the day, talent is the great indicator of a stallion prospects potential and talent is not defined by an 1/8 of a mile in February of their 2 year old year.

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Postby Tonno100 » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:28 am

From what I've heard there was more to The Green Monkey's price than Coolmore thinking he was worth that much.

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Postby Tappiano » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:18 am

Tonno100 wrote:From what I've heard there was more to The Green Monkey's price than Coolmore thinking he was worth that much.


You mean like maybe they already owned half before the sale?

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Postby Joltman » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:00 pm

I thought it was a dueling egos thing.

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Postby Tonno100 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:33 am

Tappiano wrote:
Tonno100 wrote:From what I've heard there was more to The Green Monkey's price than Coolmore thinking he was worth that much.


You mean like maybe they already owned half before the sale?


Possibly something like that, obviously I could possibly comment. Maybe someone else got wind of it too, who knows?