How's his temperament?
Don't I recall that he was hell on wheels?
Second thoughts about Point Given?
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vineyridge wrote:How's his temperament?
Don't I recall that he was hell on wheels?
You would be correct. If I had a nickle for every shot of him rearing I'd be competing with Coolmore and the Maktoums at Keeneland. Not sure if that temperament gets passed on or not...haven't heard either way. I've understood that the Storm Cats and FuPegs are like daddy and that Barbaro's an unusually tractable Dynaformer hence the not being gelded.
Like others here, I heard he really needs care in mare selection in terms of body which I'm sure is off putting.
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana"
My theory is that Point Given's rather unusual conformation is what a) made him an excellent runner and b) will prevent him from ever becoming a commercial success.
Most of us would judge his conformation as bad, but given that he was such a beast on the track I think we are the ones who are mistaken. Since we breed around our conformational standards, we try to produce away from what Point Given looks like and towards what we think TBs should look like. The result seems to be a worst-of-both-worlds type without the brilliance of PG or the positive results one would expect from having 'classically' good conformation.
I think it's possible that there exists a physical type for which PG is a very good match, but I doubt that will be the type to cancel out his conformational faults. Problem is, finding that type is trial and error, and probably mostly error, hence the lack of commercial success.
Most of us would judge his conformation as bad, but given that he was such a beast on the track I think we are the ones who are mistaken. Since we breed around our conformational standards, we try to produce away from what Point Given looks like and towards what we think TBs should look like. The result seems to be a worst-of-both-worlds type without the brilliance of PG or the positive results one would expect from having 'classically' good conformation.
I think it's possible that there exists a physical type for which PG is a very good match, but I doubt that will be the type to cancel out his conformational faults. Problem is, finding that type is trial and error, and probably mostly error, hence the lack of commercial success.
hi Nerd
Interesting theory.
I couldn't help but smile when you so diplomatically described Point Given's conformation as "unusual"
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Another horse that had top-class talent, and might also fit your description as having "unusual conformation" (your words) is Devil His Due. Arguably his front end is a tough one to swallow, yet he won 5 G1s, placed in 11 other G1s, earned $3.9mil and sired the top-class G1-Dubai World Cup etc winner of $5mil+, Roses In May.
Go figure.
Respectfully
Nerd wrote:My theory is that Point Given's rather unusual conformation is what a) made him an excellent runner and b) will prevent him from ever becoming a commercial success.
Interesting theory.
I couldn't help but smile when you so diplomatically described Point Given's conformation as "unusual"
.
Another horse that had top-class talent, and might also fit your description as having "unusual conformation"
(your words) is Devil His Due. Arguably his front end is a tough one to swallow, yet he won 5 G1s, placed in 11 other G1s, earned $3.9mil and sired the top-class G1-Dubai World Cup etc winner of $5mil+, Roses In May.
Go figure.
Respectfully