North Light

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Postby larrygene » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:38 pm

DDT, its all subjective until you kick the latches!!!!!! :lol: Just ask Steve Asmussen!!! :wink:

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Postby DDT » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:52 pm

larrygene

Mr. Mistoffelees, a 2 yrold son of Storm Cat, sold for $1.5M, just broke his maiden at Keeneland in nice time. He is bred very close to the dam of Counter Punch. Hope he can continue to win races and bring some attention to your stallion, that would be nice.

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Postby larrygene » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:30 pm

DDT, on another thread I thanked you for mentioning Counter Punch. I thank you again. I'm sure you know how it feels when you think you have something special. I have bred all my mares to CP and will continue to promote him. This 2 yr old victory helps to shore up my beliefs in CP.

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Postby da hoss » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:43 pm

Seems like there is a big delay in the release of any pictures of North Light. In a thread a few months ago it was asked - nothing.

seems suspect -

Does anyone have confirmation pics?

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oops

Postby da hoss » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:05 am

oops sorry - I was thinking about Northern Spur

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Postby cewright » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:30 am

da hoss wrote:Seems like there is a big delay in the release of any pictures of North Light. In a thread a few months ago it was asked - nothing.

seems suspect -

Does anyone have confirmation pics?


Here are some pics of North Light I took last summer

http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... =lexington

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Postby henthorn » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:13 am

My understanding of the Adena Springs stallions is that they are purchased for stud duty mostly as mates for the Adena broodmare band. They have never really tried to "make" their stallions. They let the offispring prove their worthiness instead.

And with so few American distance sires, it makes sense for Adena to breed for the graded stakes races, where the REAL money is to be found.
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Postby Joltman » Mon May 17, 2010 6:22 am

It's been a couple of years since this thread and I'm wondering the take on North Light.

Now that his get have (hardly) got going, anybody have ideas as to why there hasn't been much success here? I can't imagine him getting any action at 10k.

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Postby kimberley mine » Tue May 18, 2010 8:08 pm

Simply put, the bloodlines he needs either aren't on this side of the pond, OR they are sent to other stallions.

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Postby Joltman » Wed May 19, 2010 9:14 am

I would assume you mean grass bloodlines?

any thoughts which might work best?

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Postby kimberley mine » Thu May 20, 2010 3:12 am

Joltman wrote:I would assume you mean grass bloodlines?

any thoughts which might work best?

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Grass, yes, and grass with some brilliance to balance his stamina-heavy bottom line.

Machiavellian is obvious, most Machiavellian over here is via Street Cry and he's not going to see a Street Cry mare unless Stronach sends him one. A direct Machiavellian daughter in the US is more likely to go to the Storm Cat line.

Halo is also obvious. To a large extent the successful Halo bred mares over here are now more dirt-bred, and may not be suitable. The Sunday Silences and Southern Halos are mostly overseas.

Roberto--Lear Fan, Red Ransom, and Kris S would all work, but I get the sense that a lot of them have been sent to Mr P sires since Roberto and Mr P has worked so well. Keeping on the Hail to Reason trend, there is a recent stakes winner in his family from a Temperance Hill-line stallion. I think H2R might be the go-to stallion for him, but again, grass isn't in favour in the US.

Sharpen Up--mostly here via Diesis and Trempolino, the latter not being all that much as broodmare sire so far.

One could make a case for Sky Classic, Regal Classic, and especially Smart Strike based on them being the major carriers of Star Kingdom in north America and with Smart Strike, his affinity for Danzig.

That's not THAT limited a pool, but for a horse with a sparse race record and bloodlines that don't suit the US market that well, those mares will go elsewhere to stallions whose bloodlines DO suit the market and DO have good progeny results, often for cheaper than he started at $30k and even cheaper than he is standing now (Belong to Me, Stephen Got Even).

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Postby wallinga » Thu May 20, 2010 6:27 pm

Royal Academy, Danehill loves Nijinsky, as does Rainbow Quest. El Prado would also be an interesting one and I can only assume he's getting a bit of that.

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Postby kimberley mine » Fri May 21, 2010 12:40 am

wallinga wrote:Royal Academy, Danehill loves Nijinsky, as does Rainbow Quest. El Prado would also be an interesting one and I can only assume he's getting a bit of that.


El Prado is likely the ONLY one he's seeing in quantity, simply because Adena owned El Prado and will likely have mares by him.

I forgot about poor Royal Academy. Hopefully he's enjoying being an old man in your part of the world.

His biggest problem, even with the US disdain for distance and turf, is that he started at a $30,000 fee, way too high for what the market even at the time.

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Postby Joltman » Fri May 21, 2010 8:01 pm

Any thoughts about a situation where North Light is a broodmare sire? Any reasons to like him in that capacity as opposed to being the sire?

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