Favorite Trick

[jellac]

we have one here that is putting Dual Breds out there - he has a Farm with a Minnesota mailing address but the farm is actually in Iowa - won't that be interesting if Texas ever does get some type of casino gaming with New Mexico to the west,Oklahoma to the North and Louisiana to the east

I actually looked into the possibility of standing stallions in two or even three states simultaneously from Texas....by finding land that straddled state boudaries....I figured the stallion could meet with his "Louisiana" dates on one side of the line and with his "Texas" dates a few feet away, then the next morning be led/trailered a short distance over to Arkansas (see: TriStates, La. for such a point of ground in a rural setting)......and ditto for the corner NMx and Ok share with Texas.....as long as he was recorded as "standing" on the requisite state's soil at the time of the mating. (Frankly, I think the dual address thing sounds fraudulent to me - it's rather blatantly an effort to not abide by the rules, but create a sham that you are.).

HOWEVER, upon closer scrutiny of the Rules....for a stallion to stand in Texas as a Texas Accredited Stallion he has to be at stud in Texas and Texas alone for the time period he is "at stud" as a Texas Accredited Stallion".....so there went that fantasy out the window. I know that there is some "play" in how the applicable Rule(s) might be interpreted but I'd rather not start an enterprise with the litigators in my hip pocket from the outset......so I gave up on this idea. Besides if you want a "Texas Accredited" foal from the in-foal mare you bought anywhere else you just move her to Texas and Accredidate her before she foals, then breed her back to a Texas Accredited stallion....those are exactly the kinds of Texas Accredited yearlings that usually ring up the big numbers at Fasig-Tipton every August....not so often the foal by a Texas Accredited Sire.

Frankly it made sense to me as a way for a regional based stallion to attract books of mares of sufficient number whose offsrping would be racing in enough different jurisdictions and under enough variety of trainers to really test his mettle/give him a chance.

[jellac]

I should add that the Texas Accredidation Rules for a stallion do not preclude a stallion who has stood the early part of a breeding season in one state to be moved to Texas for the latter part (or vice versa) as I understood them to be interpreted, but I think it was envisioned that such a move would be a "permanent" move for that stallion not for the purpose of creating a Northern/Southern shuttle program within the states.

I have often wondered though whether a good Regional Stallion marketing business plan might not include/be based upon a 'shuttle' stallion scheme between the early warming states in the south and the northern climes, like Washington, New York, etc. and/or even Canada. I realize it might not fit the Texas Rules as they were envisioned but it might allow some decent regional stallions whose books are rather scant here (minus the purses supported by slots) to get more mares and present a decent pedigree for other states whose mares are typically ready to be bred later, whose foals enjoy better weather and grass if born later, etc.....


DANG - Every time I "think outside the box" though I run into those pesky ol' RULES......

[JCBloodstock]

(Frankly, I think the dual address thing sounds fraudulent to me - it's rather blatantly an effort to not abide by the rules, but create a sham that you are.).

First off,it is legal here-the only problem is to which side of the line you stand the stallion in.In Iowa to be considered an Iowa Bred all you have to be is in the state before Dec.31 of year bred.If you come into the state after January 1 of year of foaling you must breed back to an Iowa registered stallion to get the foal in utero Iowa Bred.Since this particular farm is in Iowa but has a Minnesota postal address that is how they are getting around the Iowa/Minnesota Bred status.Minnesota rules are that the mare can come into the state anytime if foaling before March 15 or must be in the state by March 15 if foaling after March 15-there are no breedback rules to my knowledge but I believe they are stringent on a Minnesota resident owning the stallion.Since this particular farm has a mailing address in Minnesota-Minnesota is recognizing them and since the farm is in Iowa and the the man pays Iowa Income Tax the state of Iowa is also recognizing the foals.

[jellac]

Thanks for the information "JC" - it is amazing how rather seemingly slight differences in one state's program rules vs. another's may create much different opportunities.

Meanwhile - I received my American Quarter Horse Racing Journal and quickly spotted the first ad for Favorite Trick by the JEH group - full page color near the front on the right hand side. In addition to touting his accomplishments as a TB racehorse the ad is headlined with "The only "Horse Of the Year" available to Quarter Horse Mares!" then among other touts, states in bold below that (and above his conformation photo:

Average Quarter Horse Earnings Per Starter of $63,701

and below that in bold:

A PROVEN OUT CROSS ON DASH FOR CASH BRED MARES

Along with an overlay photo of G-1 Winner PRANKSTER CF in the left hand margin, captioned "....winning his sixth straight in the James S Smith Memorial Handicap!"

The ad also notes that F.T. was
* the 1st 2YO since Secretariat to be named HOY,
* Ran the fastest Breeders Cup Juvenile on Record - (I was there and it was a phenomenal race by a horse that everyone took for granted would win....but how he won was amazing to witness)
* Sire of 7 TB stakes winners - 4 in 2004
* Sire of 2 QH stakes winners - 2 in 2004
and finally noting that
* 31 TB 2YOs have averaged $71,000 at the training sales

It's a smart marketing approach and I predict WILL catch the attention of many a QH breeder as well as TB mare owners.

[toadie]

I will take this opportunity, as I will anytime JEH comes up, to say that I wouldn't breed to a stallion standing there if he was the last stud on earth! This is the farm that sent my mare home with a rectal tear, and said "she must have come that way". I will never do business with them again. Slick advertising don't you think (referring to the QH journal ad abv.)?

[madelyn]

Regarding the "straddle of a state line" controversy, I believe Lil E. Tee was born at a farm that straddled the border of Maryland and Pennsylvania and was registered as a statebred of the side of the line he was born in... 'course I'm getting old and my memory is not what it used to be.

[ZiaLand]

New Mexico program may fit him. I would feel bad if I had a FT weanling or yearling going to the sales later this year.

It seems the move to New Mexico was not the kiss of death for Favorite Trick's sales progeny. He just had a sales topper filly at the OBCS August Yearling sale on Wednesday, the only six-figure seller.

A very interesting development. Comments?

Laurie

[daraabah]

A quick look at Favorite Tricks pedigree suggests that he might go OK with daughters of Saratoga Six, Devon Lane and possibly even Robyn Dancer.........perhaps his new owner is looking to build a stallion roster that compliments one another?

Daraabah

[ZiaLand]

Hi Dara,

Only Saratoga Six stands at JEH Stallion Station where Favorite Trick went (in the Ruidoso area), but I believe Favorite Trick's best runner to date was out of a Saratoga Six mare, so I think the farm might be thinking of using that "nick" as a marketing tool to bring back clients who already have offspring by Saratoga Six.

Devon Lane is standing at TNL Farms near Bernardo. Robyn Dancer is standing at Double L Farm near Bosque.

Laurie