3 most intriguing. stallion prospects still racing?

[bdw0617]

It's pronounced shahn-zay-lee-zay. And Elysee is acceptable and means the same thing. The singular Elysee is usually in reference to the Elysee Palace, which is the French equivalent of the White House. Although you will often hear Parisians refer to the champs the same way.

And as far as CE being a disappointment, it's all about perspective. I'm sure Darley is disappointed in his results thus far, expecting him to be a G1 by now.

He was the least competitive son of Hasili (I'm discounting the Sadler's Wells) in European races thus far, and their sending him to America was an attempt of securing easier G1 races, without question.

It's worth pointing out, however, that the exciting young stallion Dansili, was never ever able to win a G1, although he was competitive in some fo the best G1's throughout his career.

considering I am French I would think I know, it's not my French I had trouble with it's my English.


Elysee refers to the Palais de l'Elysee

La plus belle avenue du monde is not a palace. it's a street, and a very very popular one. Champs Elysees is the most popular street in France. It's the French Time's Square


Elysee Palace is not even ON Champs Elysees.. it's not FAR, but it's not THERE.

so there you have it, that's today's french lesson. and Coquinerie was right in the sense that they literarly are the same word, but not congitated it means something totally different

[Coquinerie]

I've lived in Paris off and on for the last two years. I never said the palace was on Champs Elysees. I was just pointing out that Parisians will use the singular Elysee when referring to both the champs and the palace. That's just fact.

Elysee is an acceptable reference to both locations. If you're French, you certainly didn't grow up in Paris. Otherwise you wouldn't have corrected something that is culturally and regionally accepted.

Getting back on subject, it would be nice to see CE stand stud here in the states. I haven't been thrilled with the Leroidesanimaux's I have seen, unfortunately, and would love another option of this bloodline available to US breeders.

[bdw0617]

I've lived in Paris off and on for the last two years. I never said the palace was on Champs Elysees. I was just pointing out that Parisians will use the singular Elysee when referring to both the champs and the palace. That's just fact.

Elysee is an acceptable reference to both locations. If you're French, you certainly didn't grow up in Paris. Otherwise you wouldn't have corrected something that is culturally and regionally accepted.

Getting back on subject, it would be nice to see CE stand stud here in the states. I haven't been thrilled with the Leroidesanimaux's I have seen, unfortunately, and would love another option of this bloodline available to US breeders.

oh.. where in paris?

culturally accecpted yes, literary correct no? Considering the point that Champs Elysees name is in fact Champs Elysees and not Elysee, meaning the person who named the horse was trying to refer to the street and not the palace.


I was born and raised in Nantes

[Coquinerie]

7ème arrondissement. Amazing city and country.

[AscotStud]

BDW

You must have me confused with somebody else. Or you're having trouble reading my english post. Not once did I say he had to win a G1 and not once did I say Champs was a let down. I have those two horses as my top 3 most interesting sires (or whatever the hell this thread is about. All I said was that First Defence has a little proving to do before he turns into one of the top prospects still racing out there. Champs is already there he is a Graded winner in the US and Europe, and anything else including a G1 win just pads his resume.

I also don't need a French grammer lesson, even though I don't live in Quebec I went to French school until I started high school. The only good it has done me so far was get my money back in Nice from the bartender who tried to rip my friends and I off (didn't need to see anymore of France, with Spain right next door) and it got us to the good beach in Guadaloupe. I did not write Elysees anywhere on this thread.