Own, Breed, Stand & Own Stallions, Train, Consign, Race...and just hit 30, my younger brother (who runs the Stud Farm and is in no way associated with my comments on this site is 27).
We were not brought up in the business and I got us into it. We are both University educated in other fields. I find this the most frustrating business in the world (which is why I love it). The majority of the time the people not involved make more sense, because they are not the old hardboots who are afraid of change. This industry needs a lot of it. I used to love a good friendly debate from an ex member, because even though we didn't see eye to eye we learned from each other and that's what this sport needs, healthy discussion and initiative. Sometimes those who have sold a bad idea can't stand a little criticsm on here.
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I have been first an owner, then hotwalker, exercise rider, jockey, breeder, and then married a trainer. Both of us had professional horsemen parents, though his were riders. We breed to race. I seldom leave the farm and handle the breeding, foaling, and some of the exercising here. I already had a wee bit of business sense from my own father who bred to race, and bought nice yearlings to race in partnership with good people. He was not hands on, but had better money sense than many who are and used very competent people who kept an eye on how we ran the farm.
As Ascot Stud says, it is hard getting sense out of people who don't know or care why they do things, they were made to at one time, and so still do it that way. I was lucky to ride for a good trainer early on who made me understand things that I have seen people not get year in, year out. You just have to filter the info you get.
I like having people on the board who both do and don't invest in horses themselves. It is people who are new or from other disciplines who ask the toughest questions that we sometimes don't ask ourselves. I just hate dealing with new people who come from another discipline and think they are better horsemen and can win everything. It was tough as a rider to deal with them and watch them ruin their horses and sometimes riders. You can't really tell someone who just bought or bred their first horse that they need to either hire a trainer or go work for someone and learn something. It sucks the life out of me on another board I am sometimes on to hear the invalid, useless opinions of race bashers with no knowledge. This is nice to talk to those who know something.
As Ascot Stud says, it is hard getting sense out of people who don't know or care why they do things, they were made to at one time, and so still do it that way. I was lucky to ride for a good trainer early on who made me understand things that I have seen people not get year in, year out. You just have to filter the info you get.
I like having people on the board who both do and don't invest in horses themselves. It is people who are new or from other disciplines who ask the toughest questions that we sometimes don't ask ourselves. I just hate dealing with new people who come from another discipline and think they are better horsemen and can win everything. It was tough as a rider to deal with them and watch them ruin their horses and sometimes riders. You can't really tell someone who just bought or bred their first horse that they need to either hire a trainer or go work for someone and learn something. It sucks the life out of me on another board I am sometimes on to hear the invalid, useless opinions of race bashers with no knowledge. This is nice to talk to those who know something.
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Jenny
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O.K I will join in!!!
We own and operate our own small farm. We breed, race and train. We also own Gone Fishin who now stands at our farm. We have been in the business for about 9 years now and have had our ups and downs. But we soldier on because we our passionate about, and love our horses.
I did the whole show thing before getting into racing. I ride only occasionally now, due to time constraints. I wish I could do more. We have everything from weanlings, yearlings, 2 year olds, horses of racing age and retiree's here.
We still have the first horse I ever owned and the first race horse we ever owned. Deputy Chris.C. We claimed him and he had 4 chips and a slab fracture of his 3rd carpal in his knee. We were really upset. This was the first horse we ever claimed!!!! We sent him for surgery and rehabbed him. He never took a lame step after that and won us over 80k in gratitude!!!!!!! So he is allowed to hand out the rest of his life, for all the enjoyment he gave us.
We own and operate our own small farm. We breed, race and train. We also own Gone Fishin who now stands at our farm. We have been in the business for about 9 years now and have had our ups and downs. But we soldier on because we our passionate about, and love our horses.
I did the whole show thing before getting into racing. I ride only occasionally now, due to time constraints. I wish I could do more. We have everything from weanlings, yearlings, 2 year olds, horses of racing age and retiree's here.
We still have the first horse I ever owned and the first race horse we ever owned. Deputy Chris.C. We claimed him and he had 4 chips and a slab fracture of his 3rd carpal in his knee. We were really upset. This was the first horse we ever claimed!!!! We sent him for surgery and rehabbed him. He never took a lame step after that and won us over 80k in gratitude!!!!!!! So he is allowed to hand out the rest of his life, for all the enjoyment he gave us.
I get ideas/inspiration from friends who never owned a race horse, but have followed the game or have handicapped all their adult lives. I know some clockers who never owned a single horse, rather... they "own" every horse on the track... and could tell you more about your horse than a trainer ever could.
Passion knows not your bank account.
Passion knows not your bank account.
Small breeder and racehorse owner.
I agree that if this board were limited just to people in the business it would be less interesting. There are "just a fan" posters who have lots of good stuff to say. There are others who I am pretty sure have horses whose posts seem to have a different reality than mine so I don't think we should be on one side or the other.
Just a thought--I think a lot of how posters are perceived is not just what they say as much as how they say it. Maybe a person with a retired horse in the backyard and Internet access can't have all the answers for the big farms or a large racing stable. Maybe they should recognize that.
I agree that if this board were limited just to people in the business it would be less interesting. There are "just a fan" posters who have lots of good stuff to say. There are others who I am pretty sure have horses whose posts seem to have a different reality than mine so I don't think we should be on one side or the other.
Just a thought--I think a lot of how posters are perceived is not just what they say as much as how they say it. Maybe a person with a retired horse in the backyard and Internet access can't have all the answers for the big farms or a large racing stable. Maybe they should recognize that.
I don't race any yet, but I do have OTT Thoroughbreds that have gone on to eventing careers. I have an older broodmare in FL also.
I DO however work in surgery at a very large and well known equine hospital in Lexington. I get to see a lot of horses. . .
I DO however work in surgery at a very large and well known equine hospital in Lexington. I get to see a lot of horses. . .
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.
Re: Posters
hpkingjr wrote:It appears the question is whether the horse crap is on the inside or the outside of your boots.
In my case, I have it both ways.
LOL!
No horses myself (still waiting for that pony for Christmas) but involved in the industry as a freelance writer, primarily on pedigree topics and racing history. Too dratted broke to get more involved as I'm busy paying son's college tuition.
"A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher...You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse." C. S. Lewis
Small scale breeder and owner of a soon to be 2 year old. Grew up with horses, have loved racing my whole life. Seized an opportunity to get into this business full time a few years ago, am truly enjoying learning and studying as much as I can. My youngest just graduated from college and has gotten a job and moved to Boston, so my empty nest is being filled with horses.
own very small shares of 3 2YO fillies--the shares were gifted to me; I can't afford that investment yet!
Learning as much as I can, would like to be involved with my own $$ as an owner someday. Allergic and live in NYC so can't breed or train!
Learning as much as I can, would like to be involved with my own $$ as an owner someday. Allergic and live in NYC so can't breed or train!
All shouting does is make you lose your voice.
----Arrested Development
----Arrested Development
race, own, sell since 1998...
own a small 25 acre farm in oklahoma..right now it houses one barren prime timber mare...
Havent ran a horse in a couple of years due to the fact my wife had 3 kids(one set of twins) over the last 3 years...
My "horse racing" money has been re-allocated to the au pair, daycare,3T-4T pull ups, #4 pampers, wipes and costco...
I do plan to race at Lone Star/Remington in 2009....
own a small 25 acre farm in oklahoma..right now it houses one barren prime timber mare...
Havent ran a horse in a couple of years due to the fact my wife had 3 kids(one set of twins) over the last 3 years...
My "horse racing" money has been re-allocated to the au pair, daycare,3T-4T pull ups, #4 pampers, wipes and costco...
I do plan to race at Lone Star/Remington in 2009....