Nervous?

[Stormchaser]

Local who wants everything for nothing. Sends mares that are in terrible condition, not trimmed, starving and in very poor condition (which is amazing as they live at a horse vet's farm). Mares shipped home empty because of the owners attitude. (although the rumour mill ....... Ask about the other side of the coin before making judgements and do not assume the worst about the stallion owner)

Trailer breeding is when you keep your mare at home and as soon as your vet says she is ovulating you run her to the stallion farm to be bred. Take her home and check her status by ultrasound in 14 - 17 days. That way they incur no mare care fee's, it works if you have a good vet and you are close enough to the stallion farm.

[soft hearted]

The trailer breeding, I can understand (from a MO's POV - IF it's doable distance wise), but it must be a helluva PITA from a SO's POV. And how does an SO know that the mare got decent care at all times, leading up to breeding, ultrasound etc? So you waste more time (how many mares do you have to shuffle to get that cover in that day?) hoping that she's not "holding onto the egg"... yadayada. Can't see why a SO would want to do it. Unless you were to charge some serious extra fee for it (and I wouldn't blame you!)

But the other "syndrome" .. what is that? The lousy care thing? Why not just refuse the mare, say she's not in breeding condition?
Sure can understand the wrath now though.

[Sock Monkey]

MOST major TB farms do "trailer breeding." It is actually less common to see a stud farm that offers to board outside mares.

[KMO_racing]

Ok, Trailer breeding is the way it is done in KY & FL. The mare owners have way less cost. Most stallion farms in KY & Fl don't even board mares. It works if you have a good vet and the mare owner never has to fear about the care and condition of the mare because they are in their own facility .

I am in Louisiana & stand 4 stallions here at Fanlew Farms, trailer breeding is how it works on my farm. We will breed 2 times a day just like they do in KY OR Fl. I do board mares but do not force people to board here I prefer to breed off the trailer.

I have spoke to farms here that state you have to leave your mares for 6 weeks I think its crazy. I know when she is going to ovulate via vet & set appointment to breed give ovulation shot cover and bring my mare home.

[soft hearted]

So, is that where the "jump fee" comes in? That and having a vet on hand to tranq if necessary? I can sure understand an awful lot more from the SO's POV now. Thanks!
Nice to see the differing views and reasons.

[KMO_racing]

We do not have a jump fee, that is rediculous, never heard of that for thoroughbreds only quarters. We stand stallions would never charge a jump fee and I would never pay a jump fee. As far as having a vet on hand, we don't; we do tranquilize mares ONLY when necesary and if the owners sign a release form or they will pay for the vet call for him to tranq a mare. You do not need a vet for everything..... I spent quit a few years in fl breeding off the truck, it is not that bad, even if I have to make a return trip the next cycle it is still WAY cheaper than boarding.of time in FL

[soft hearted]

I've seen it advertised (jump fee) most often with 1/4s but a few times in TB stallion contracts - I've seen that the mare "must be jumped" (and a listed fee for it) BEFORE letting the stallion breed.
Usually only for a maiden mare.
Stands to reason (no pun intended).
With sue-happy people around here, few will give a tranq (especially IV) without a vet's licence. Wonder how well the waiver would work if someone messed up? Just an idle thought...

[witherbee]

There is usually no fee to have a maiden mare jumpoed - that's what the teasers are for and it's the safest way for the stallion and staff with a maiden mare. No vet on hand - the stallion handlers are more than capable to administer any tranquilizers needed. Here in FL, most folks do run the mare out to the stallion after their own vet has checked the follicle. The expense comes from the vet work and shipping to the stallion. Works very well and has been done that way for many, many years.

[madelyn]

Here in KY, stud farms always require that a maiden mare has been jumped prior to going to the breeding shed. Obviously a nervous maiden, no matter how much in heat she is, might strike out and kick at that first unfamiliar feeling of a horse up on her back, and when the stallion is up and over and erect, he is at his most vulnerable for a potentially fatal injury. Mares who have been bred and had foals are not required to be jumped.

A jump fee might be charged if you bring in an unjumped maiden, and they take a teaser in a teasing harness and jump her. I view that as a labor charge. They have the horse, the equipment, and the employees, and if you don't want to pay the jump fee, then for heaven's sake jump her with your own teaser BEFORE you take her to the shed.