Are there any good value Turf stallions in Ky?

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Postby summerhorse » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:40 pm

David Copperfield is listed as 15.3 which is only an inch below average TB size and the same size as Smarty and a host of others. I stood right next to him and he is well made and def. not small, in fact he's quite a tank. He has a Danzig head (actually kind of looks like Chief's Crown a bit) but he's a good looking son of a gun and he just had this amazing metallic GLOW to him. I have photos of him in Hopewell album at http://community.webshots.com/user/summerhorse
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Postby sunday_silence » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:05 pm

summerhorse wrote:David Copperfield is listed as 15.3 which is only an inch below average TB size and the same size as Smarty and a host of others. I stood right next to him and he is well made and def. not small, in fact he's quite a tank. He has a Danzig head (actually kind of looks like Chief's Crown a bit) but he's a good looking son of a gun and he just had this amazing metallic GLOW to him. I have photos of him in Hopewell album at http://community.webshots.com/user/summerhorse


He looks much better than what I remembered. My bad! But I still think 15.3 is a stretch.
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Postby sunday_silence » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:11 pm

austique wrote:Just a note Mingun is closed at least to average mares :wink:


I guess a lot of people were willing to take a chance on a nice looking Group winning half brother to a $300K stallion by a $300K stallion at only $7500? Wonder what kind of book he got.
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Karie, did you decide on a turf stallion?

Postby Denise » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:48 pm

I just saw this thread, and haven't studied your mare's pedigree, but until they shipped With Approval to Europe, I thought he was the best turf bargain on earth.
A yet unproven (but very likely) turf sire at a stupendous bargain for you to consider is Syncline (Danzig). He's half to the leading sire in the UK, Selkirk, sibling to 5 stakes winners, from a turf family. He's a very grand looking son of Danzig. We have a racy, good looking yearling colt by him, and an '06 question mark on the way.
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Postby Karie » Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:07 pm

Denise..
I planned on With Approval with her.. and was so upset when they moved him! I really really liked him a lot!
too bad they sold him!
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Postby ak1 » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:25 pm

Summerhorse, thanks for sharing your pictures!
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Postby Karie » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:14 pm

Ceasefire is booked to Castledale :D
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Postby emmad » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:32 pm

Wow your mare is infoal to a horse that stands southern hemisphere in NZ and booked to another that will be coming to NZ this year.

Guess it just shows where all the turf stallions go in the off season lol
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Postby Flight » Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:43 am

wilf wrote:Karie, honestly I love King Cugat at $5000, by the fabulous Kingmambo he is from the family of Seeking the Gold and his stock will rise in time.If you breed to race then he could be fun.


Interesting that you should mention King Cugat Wilf. I did see him over here three years ago and (apart from his knee) he was an awesome looking beast.

He probably thought that he was on his way to the breeding barn during the parade as he held his head high and was up on all fours.

Unfortunately, his stats so far for runners (first seaon stallions) are:

19 King Cugat (USA), 1997, by Kingmambo 14/2 0/0 0/0 27,551 Chateau Cugat (NZ), $11,901

I know that two year old racing is not the be all and end all however we all know that they need to get more winners and prizemoney early (our babies have been racing for five months) otherwise they face banishment to less desirable places. Sorry state of affairs in both hemispheres.

We did send a mare to him but I guess she didn't like something about him as she absorbed after the first service and just did not get into foal again after four other services. It was a Christmas Tree type of mating on paper as well! All those pretty colours on the pedigree page. :)

He is being supported by some of the heavyweights in our industry so I really do hope that his babies can run with a bit of maturity and experience over the next nine months or so.

But, at the moment, he is no sure bet.
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