What stallions offer value?

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Patuxet
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Postby Patuxet » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:15 pm

A classic winner who's sired a classic winner or a multiple G1 winner and stands for $5000 or under is always a good buy. To Keith's Grindstone and Real Quiet I'll add Go For Gin, soon to be a classic grandsire.

(Good joke, Old Blood!)

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Postby geowarrior » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:20 pm

Larrygene, I'm relieved to hear that Mustang Jock hasn't been deserted. Thanks for the update.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:34 pm

No Vision And Verse fans, huh?

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Postby Sangue Vecchio » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:49 pm

Thank you for recognizing sarcasm to Rokeby and Patuxet and nice catch on the Italian Old Blood. I have a mare in foal to Go For Gin named Talespin. I have a mare in foal to Grindstone named Shroud Remark. I think they are great bargains with a chance to sell or race. As far as my ranking vs my breeding prowess, I bred Wild Encounter in my first crop and she recently won the San Jacinto while winning her fifth consecutive race. Based on your chat room raking, I can only assume that you have at least bred a regional champion, BJ? Rokeby, I own Sunset Rose (1/2 to Rokeby). She is booked to Powerscourt.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:42 pm

You can't go wrong with Rokeby blood, that's for sure. :-) As I recall, Ian Balding trained Robeky.

Sangue, if it makes you feel any better - I have a Mountain Cat mare out of a Cat Thief mare in foal to Vision And Verse. Can I get a six pack of Gatorade for the foal?

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Postby amanda1 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:45 pm

VICTORY GALLOP $10,000

If you are breeding to race you can't go wrong with this guy. He's not commercial, but he sure can throw runner!

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Postby Patuxet » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:49 pm

Sunset Rose! Great catch, Old Blood. I'm glad to know she's in your program. IMO she was the buy of that Ocala sale. Nothing finer than Mellon blood. (Unless it's a cast-off from the Aga Khan.) That's a very smart breeding with Powerscourt. I especially like the Lalun RM. Did you ever send SR to a Nijinsky son?

The Grindstone-Shroud Remark breeding is a sensible replication of Birdstone with great support on the bottom line. I saw the third dam place in a stakes at Saratoga.

You don't by any chance have Yggdrasil or Memorive, do you? Two other mares that caught my eye at auction and would seem to fit into your plan as well.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:09 pm

Pauxtent....writing what you did about Mellon blood got me warm and fuzzy all over....thank you, and I appreciate your appreciation for the finer things in life!

Do people know that Silverbulletday was out of a Mellon mare? I think that's a pretty good trivia question.

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Postby Sangue Vecchio » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:05 am

Very sharp. SR's best runner is Somerset House by Royal Academy. As far as the other two mares, I don't but wish I did, especially Yggdrasil. Sorry to change the scope of the thread.

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Postby BJ » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:48 am

Sangue Vecchio wrote: Based on your chat room raking, I can only assume that you have at least bred a regional champion, BJ?


Not yet. First ones still in the oven. Will let you know in about 3 years, as I am breeding to race and don't believe in breaking them down as 2 y/o.

I suspected your post was sarcasm. But you can never tell (sometimes). Either way...it was meant the same, based on the facts available. :wink:

Congratulations on breeding a decent one first out. Condolences on losing the mare. Looks like a nice female line "come alive" and I just love the Icecapade sireline. My mares are Icecapade line, so I'm a bit prejudiced in that direction, I guess :wink:

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Postby ASB » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:59 am

Rokeby Forever wrote:Pauxtent....writing what you did about Mellon blood got me warm and fuzzy all over....thank you, and I appreciate your appreciation for the finer things in life!

Do people know that Silverbulletday was out of a Mellon mare? I think that's a pretty good trivia question.


Yes, its how she was able to carry her speed a distance... the classy and stout Rokeby blood. In fact, her dam had her when she was quite long in the tooth.

Im surprised she's panned as a broodmare so far. They need to breed her to speed instead of stamina. Her Indy was slower than a fat girl.

Actually, a cover to Alphabet Soup would be very interesting. Returning the best blood of Silverbulletday through Arts and Letters.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:52 pm

I quite agree, ASB - there's no speed in Silverbulletday's pedigree save Mr P as the damsire of Silver Deputy. I would think that breeding to her to something on the Mr P line and creating a 2X to him would bring out some speed in one of her foals.

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Postby Ill-bred » Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:09 pm

Not sure if anyone mentioned him yet, but how about Storm and a Half for $2,500 in Arkansas!

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Postby ef » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:48 pm

Ill-bred wrote:Not sure if anyone mentioned him yet, but how about Storm and a Half for $2,500 in Arkansas!


He can't be a good value-- He's by STORM CAT!

As for value- how about Storm Boot?

Cryptoclearance at 6500 can certainly get you a good one.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:46 pm

Ef....I sure hope you're not being sarcastic because you hit the nail on the head! LOL!