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Re: Mountain Top & Sir Juli Go

Postby KBEquine » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:21 pm

aardvark wrote:
KBEquine wrote:Not Fury . . . just a guy playing in pasture. Here's a picture his exercise rider sent to me, showing his "happy to work" side:

We aren't set up to accommodate many mares, so while we would welcome the right ones, we stay intentionally small.


My miscommunication at least landed another photo. Fury was a T.V. show back, well a long time ago. Fury was the name of the black stallion in the show.


I'm old enough to remember Fury [okay, maybe the reruns] very well . . .

Edited to add - and we here at Hidden Echo Farm have one heck of a collection of old westerns of ALL varieties on DVD, VHS, etc., etc., for those days we actually get tired of TVG & HRTV . . .

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Postby aardvark » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:01 pm

JimP wrote:Hi Guys,

Acquired the stallion Worldly Manner, by Riverman out of Lady Pastor, late in the season. Moved him to Texas after getting a partner on him.
Plan on covering mares next season.


JimP,

Good luck with him. Mares with Forli might do well for you.

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Postby larrygene » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:11 pm

aardvark, you seem to have some knowledge of pedigrees so why don't you give us a short bio of where you grew up, how you became interested in TB , your education and equine background. We will accept the Reader's Digest version. Nothing about you was on your profile so I thought I would come out and ask. Anybody with a handle of "aardvark" can't be too private!!

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Postby aardvark » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:11 pm

tinners way wrote:My partner and I stand Tinners Way, Special Rate and Sand Ridge. The breeding season was good for all three in that we hit the numbers we were projecting. Sand Ridge (Known Fact- Skybox by Spend A Buck) first foals are two year olds. This initial crop was small compared to the last two and the current season just concluding. The trainers that have them are quite positive on them and some of them will be making their debuts at Lone Star later this month. Special Rate (Pulpit-Viviana by Nureyev) is concluding his third season and his numbers continue to grow. Both Special Rate and Sand Ridge or syndicated which is very beneficial for both the mare owners and the stallions. The Texas crops of Tinners Way are just getting to the track. We have had a some nice allowance winners to date, and there are several more being readied. All three stand at Key Ranch, who also stand Uncle Abbie, Lil's Lad and Dixieland Heat.


Sounds like a great season. How do you track all the progeny? That could be a time consuming effort of itself.

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Postby tinners way » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:48 pm

Equine Line has a program that tracks all the starters that you can download each day. This makes it fairly easy to follow.

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Postby arsvcs » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:42 am

We own Country Only, standing at Naylee Farm, WV. Websites - www.nayleefarm.com and www.arstallions.com. CO has 4 from a test crop that are yearlings and approx. 24 of 27 foals this year. He has covered 30 mares. All babies are looking good!! Just waiting for them to hit the track.

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Postby tmqh » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:39 pm

We just acquired late this year Classy Prospector by Mr. Prospector out of a G1 stakes winning daughter of Green Dancer. I am in Indiana, so the regional incentives made it enticing for me to jump into this venture. Since we got him in so late, he will probably only cover between 20-25 mares, but he has a total of only 41 on the ground, so that is exciting for us. He bred quite a few SW and SP mares by Dynaformer, Cox's Ridge, Marias Mon, Dixie Brass and Straight Man. He's a neat boy that has a great mind and throws really rugged runners. I hopped on him the other day just for kicks and he was a gentleman. Can't wait to see his foals next year.

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Postby larrygene » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:13 pm

tmgh, when do you think you will cut off breeding season?? Sometime in August or September?

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Postby tmqh » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:32 pm

Actually, LARRYGENE, we're finished breeding and it's tmQh.

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Postby larrygene » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:47 pm

Sorry I misspelled you name!! Sitting in the dark with old eyes sometimes the q looks like a g.

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Postby Roguelet » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:50 am

I'm late weighing in here, but we stand two stallions.

One is our established guy, Indy Mood. He's a son of A.P. Indy and out of the In Reality mare Super Luna, making him half brother to Champion Saratoga Dew. He was (and it makes me sick every time I say or type this) bandage bowed by some groom before he ever got to race; so although he has incredible conformation and very good bone and substance, and should have been a very sound horse, he has the stigma of no earnings. From what I've been told, he showed amazing talent prior to this incident, so over the years I've convinced myself that perhaps it was fate; for if his chance to shine on the track had not been removed from him by human error, he would likely have never entered my price range to breed to or to purchase!

Indy traditionally sires late maturing stock. Very late maturing. They're just waking up at 3 and really getting going at 4. For some reason there are many who don't GET that and ship them off to second careers if they haven't won as 3YOs. But, those who hang on and give them the time that they need are rewarded with sound, talented, tough horses that get better and better as they go. His babies have done very well in second careers also, and are typically extremely attractive and athletic animals, so people are actually looking for them specifically now for that purpose, which is nice. We were going to have a back-up market if slots never passed in Indiana! :lol:

The second stallion out here is new, this is his first year at stud. His name is Private Lap; he is a son of Private Terms and out of a Dynaformer mare. He also has great conformation and good bone, and proved himself to be a very talented and sound individual. He raced every year from a 2yo to an 8yo (2007) and retired sound; in fact he had two wins in 2007. His total record from 47 starts is 16 wins, 8 seconds, 3 thirds. He earned his blacktype by winning 6 stakes races and placing in 4 others. Total earnings are $730,546. Obviously I have no idea what he's going to produce, but we have every expectation that he'll pass his talent, soundness, toughness, and longevity to his offspring. We'll know if we're correct in a few years!
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Postby aardvark » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:31 am

arsvcs wrote:We own Country Only, standing at Naylee Farm, WV. Websites - www.nayleefarm.com and www.arstallions.com. CO has 4 from a test crop that are yearlings and approx. 24 of 27 foals this year. He has covered 30 mares. All babies are looking good!! Just waiting for them to hit the track.


arsvcs,

I see Country Only at some of the stallion auctions, TX and Virginia. You seems to really pound the pavement promoting your stallion. He is lucky to have you.

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Postby aardvark » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:33 am

tmqh wrote:We just acquired late this year Classy Prospector by Mr. Prospector out of a G1 stakes winning daughter of Green Dancer. I am in Indiana, so the regional incentives made it enticing for me to jump into this venture. Since we got him in so late, he will probably only cover between 20-25 mares, but he has a total of only 41 on the ground, so that is exciting for us. He bred quite a few SW and SP mares by Dynaformer, Cox's Ridge, Marias Mon, Dixie Brass and Straight Man. He's a neat boy that has a great mind and throws really rugged runners. I hopped on him the other day just for kicks and he was a gentleman. Can't wait to see his foals next year.


Mr. Prospector son for $500. Great intro price.

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Postby aardvark » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:56 am

Roguelet wrote:I'm late weighing in here, but we stand two stallions.

One is our established guy, Indy Mood. He's a son of A.P. Indy and out of the In Reality mare Super Luna, making him half brother to Champion Saratoga Dew. He was (and it makes me sick every time I say or type this) bandage bowed by some groom before he ever got to race; so although he has incredible conformation and very good bone and substance, and should have been a very sound horse, he has the stigma of no earnings. From what I've been told, he showed amazing talent prior to this incident, so over the years I've convinced myself that perhaps it was fate; for if his chance to shine on the track had not been removed from him by human error, he would likely have never entered my price range to breed to or to purchase!

Indy traditionally sires late maturing stock. Very late maturing. They're just waking up at 3 and really getting going at 4. For some reason there are many who don't GET that and ship them off to second careers if they haven't won as 3YOs. But, those who hang on and give them the time that they need are rewarded with sound, talented, tough horses that get better and better as they go. His babies have done very well in second careers also, and are typically extremely attractive and athletic animals, so people are actually looking for them specifically now for that purpose, which is nice. We were going to have a back-up market if slots never passed in Indiana! :lol:

The second stallion out here is new, this is his first year at stud. His name is Private Lap; he is a son of Private Terms and out of a Dynaformer mare. He also has great conformation and good bone, and proved himself to be a very talented and sound individual. He raced every year from a 2yo to an 8yo (2007) and retired sound; in fact he had two wins in 2007. His total record from 47 starts is 16 wins, 8 seconds, 3 thirds. He earned his blacktype by winning 6 stakes races and placing in 4 others. Total earnings are $730,546. Obviously I have no idea what he's going to produce, but we have every expectation that he'll pass his talent, soundness, toughness, and longevity to his offspring. We'll know if we're correct in a few years!


I am not familiar with a bandage bow. Looks like Indy has had three winners so far this year from 12 runners. Were those Indiana races or somewhere else?

Private Lap is interesting. Was just looking at other Private Terms sons. Soul of the Matter stats started out really promising and then just fall off the map. First crop 1.7 mil 2nd crop 2.1 mil 3rd crop 2.3 mil and then boom it all disappears after that. Strange. And then there is Afternoon.
The other sons dont have enough foals on the ground to judge. Maybe the canadian contingent here could comment on Custom Crew.
Here's to hoping Private Lap starts with a bang and can keep it up.

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Postby JCBloodstock » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:06 pm

Soul Of The Matter was sold to Japan in either 96' or 97' I believe.