Milwaukee Brew's Stud Fee At $12,500

[dublino]

Dublino - do you really think either of those stallions are going to be commercial?

What does it matter what I think?
I have never been one to be swayed by trends or fads in any walk of life.

As I said in a post above would it be best for the mare to be bred to stallion X or bred commercially to stallion Y?

X will give you a runner who will earn and Y will give you a pretty baby that can't outrun a fatman (I am stealing this from another poster on here).

[Jenny]

Hey that was my post!!!

[Mood Swings]

I prefer "Z" - a horse that will give me a runner but also has commercial appeal or even an "X" whose stud fee is lower

[westover]

Dublinó, you have to admit $5000 is a big jump when so many others are lowering their fee's and trying to help out breeders in general. MB is a lovely horse, but out of 109 mares bred in 09 how many were inside mares?

But then Frank Stronach is the one who redid Gulfstream, hired Canadian Achitect Steven McCasey & over spent by ba'gillions, and then didn't put much in the way of grandstand seating & what he did put he wanted to charge people $10 to sit there. I noticed last year that had gone by the way side & i also noticed the restaurant prices had come down.

& yes the fee is low compared to Harlans Holiday etc.. but we are in Ontario, not the U.S. Its a tougher go here, i think & a much smaller pool

I don't think Frank moved him here to help out Ontario Breeder's, he moved him here to help himself, lets be frank LOL That said i think its terrific he is here.

[Jane]

Did anyone go to the open house at Gardiner today?

[tbrace]

MB would have made a nice gelding. Another example of Stronach's business at work.

Milwaukee Brew sold 10 yearlings in 2009 with a median price of $2600.00 (that's hundred!) dollars.

You tell me, is he a good investment at $12,500 stud fee?

[Mood Swings]

Jane - I made it today, you can PM me if you'd like

I would just like to add that I have just become a G3 winner with this post ...

[westover]

MS aren't you going to post about the open house.. i didn't go so details please!

[dublino]

MB would have made a nice gelding. Another example of Stronach's business at work.

Milwaukee Brew sold 10 yearlings in 2009 with a median price of $2600.00 (that's hundred!) dollars.

You tell me, is he a good investment at $12,500 stud fee?

So would the green monkey & mr segicuchi, they should have been gelded.

Forget his sales average what has that got to do with BREEDING horses?

What horse is a good investment, what % of horses make money at the sales?

For what he has achieved as a sire $12,500 is a fair price.
He nearly has 50% winners to foals and 70% winners to starters.
Not many stallions have them stats and not for $12,500.

He is no 68 on the general sires list ahead of many stallions with higher price tags and no 5 in the third crop and Canada's no 1# sire.

[westover]

Dublin'o i think what is irking people is the $5000 jump in price, its hefty. He is a lovely horse and i don't think people are questioning that.. [/b]

[Pacific Classic]

Oh heaven's no - why would anyone get that idea?

"MB would have made a nice gelding".

So the stud fee is higher than you like - big deal - you act as if you've never encountered a stallion that was published at one fee and sold for less. if you have a mare that warrants a $12,500 stud fee, make them an offer and let us know what you come up with.

[spinround]

I'm a bit confused after reading this thread. Did Milwaukee Brew go from $7,500 American to $12,500 Canadian? And what about a multiple GSW with a pedigree free of Northern Dancer, Mr. Prospector and Seatle Slew screams 'gelding'?

[oliverstoned]

I'm a bit confused after reading this thread. Did Milwaukee Brew go from $7,500 American to $12,500 Canadian? And what about a multiple GSW with a pedigree free of Northern Dancer, Mr. Prospector and Seatle Slew screams 'gelding'?

Yeah Grade One winner of 2.8 million and the sire of graded winners....mean silly comment that was but as for The Green Monkey.......well.

[madelyn]

I'm a bit confused after reading this thread. Did Milwaukee Brew go from $7,500 American to $12,500 Canadian?....

Yes. But the current exchange rate does not warrant a $5K leap due solely to a different currency. This also begs the question, does the stallion owner believe, sincerely, that the market is bigger/better/able to pay more in Ontario than the market in Florida?