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Scott
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Postby Scott » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:36 am

You can see Secretariat was a large muscled horse - with a huge hindquarter. You can see how balanced he was despite his mass. Horses with large hindquarters tend to have early speed, but not much staying power. They can be hard on themselves if there are any confirmation faults or stride faults - pound themselves into the ground.

Secretariat's stride and power were bigger proportionately than his weight. He was "special -ized" by his ability to keep his stride going a distance with the energy to sustain this huge stride coming from his massive muscle, and a heart size to keep those massive muscles well oxygenated... able to take his game to the opposition early and simply gallop them to defeat.

Stride length, body weight, and power are the ingrediants to analyze the biomechanics of the racehorse. Secretariat was near perfection.

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Postby Tairaterces » Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:07 pm

Coquinerie wrote:
austique wrote:He's not been much of a sire but Gentlemen (ARG) :D


he is VERY sexy!


And now he is coming to California to woo the fillies here . . . . . .

:wink:
"and Secretariat let no one down on the unforgettable afternoon of June 9, 1973, when he ran a hole in the wind"
~Bob Ehalt~

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Postby griff » Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:15 pm

FOS

What, in your openion, were Secretariat's faults?

To me he seems to have perfect conformation and he also seems to pass that near perect conformation to his grand get through his daughters.

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Postby FOS » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:15 pm

hi griff

You wrote "To me (Secretariat) seems to have perfect conformation and he also seems to pass that near perfect conformation to his grand get through his daughters."

griff...if that's how you recognize and define Secretariat, that's your opinion, and I respect it.

Certainly some of his daughters have impacted the breed, particularly as a result of the sons they have produced that have had significant success as sires (examples: Storm Cat [out of Terlingua by Secretariat]...A.P. Indy [out of Weekend Surprise by Secretariat]...and Gone West [out of Secrettame by Secretariat])...impressive to say the least...and arguably Secretariat is entitled to his measure of credit.

As a racehorse...Secretariat was a Wonderful super-star and triple crown winner, whose legend seems to continue to grow...

...but ...from my perspective (for starters), I felt that Secretariat had a thick and somewhat heavy-looking neck that tied into a thick and somewhat heavy-looking shoulder. Obviously it didn't impair his ability to often crush opponents on the track...but arguably it did not favor his chances for success in the breeding shed.

I suggest that sometimes a star racehorse (or in the case of Secretariat...maybe star is an understatement and bigger-than-life is a better description) carries so much notoriety to the breeding shed, that some might have difficulty leaving the notoriety and super-star or bigger-than-life-status at the door when evaluating him (as it relates to his prospects for or success as a stallion and/or sire).

In the case of Secretariat...it might be fair to say that he was a cultural icon of sorts...but (from my perspective) he did not have "perfect conformation" (your words)...by any stretch of the imagination...

...regardless...it would be unacceptable (again, from my perspective) to ignore Secretariat's impact as it relates to the outstanding sires that some of his daughters have produced...and the impact they (and their sons, daughters etc) have had on the breed. To that extent...I suggest that Secretariat has had (and will continue to have) a Significant impact on the breed.
Best to you.

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Postby Scott » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:26 pm

Forrest Wildcat has a good likeness of Secretariat's shoulder and hip. The neck and head are not of Secretariat.

Interesting that one of his most successful offspring - D'Wildcat - the dam came from a Secretariat line Stallion.

Some have said that a cross of Secretariat and one of his daughters might have been his best chance of replication.