What stallions offer value?

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Postby larrygene » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:05 am

Just heard through the grapevine Storm and a Half sold for $1 million and is going to KY. I think to Hill N Dale. I could be wrong but it came from a pretty good source. I'm sure we will read and hear about it soon if in fact it is true.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:36 am

Hill N Dale, huh? The same Sikura that's trying to make Buddha disappear?

Did you read that Sikura wants to breed Point Ashley this year instead of race her? She's a May 14 foal...what's the rush? Beside, she won't even be 3 and Storm Cat is what...23 or so? Talk about robbing the cradle! LMAO!!!

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Postby horsenuts » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:37 am

larrygene wrote:Just heard through the grapevine Storm and a Half sold for $1 million and is going to KY. I think to Hill N Dale. I could be wrong but it came from a pretty good source. I'm sure we will read and hear about it soon if in fact it is true.

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See, it pays to follow this board as his name was brought up as a "value stallion" right here on this board...... but it looks like it's to late now. I figured one of the better sons of Storm Cat standing at stud for $2,500 wouldn't go unnoticed for long. Downthedustyroad was the "back-breaker" for the breeders in and around Arkansas. After she won the GI La Brea two weeks ago and then sold for $1.5 million yesterday, the trailer was on the way to pick up Storm and a Half and transport him to Kentucky. But beware.... while he was a "value stud" in Arkansas for $2,500 wait to see what Ky charges from his services. Anything over $5,000 and I'd stay away.... and would prefer $3,500.

PS Storm and a Half had another offspring run second in a $75,000 at Santa Anita this past week as well. So he can throw a nice horse..... but like all studs he also throughs a lot of bad horses that simply can't run much.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:46 am

It sure makes ya wonder why Storm And A Half is going to KY and Evansville Slew what shipped out to Oklahoma. KY breeders need their heads examined!

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Postby horsenuts » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:26 am

Rokeby Forever wrote:It sure makes ya wonder why Storm And A Half is going to KY and Evansville Slew what shipped out to Oklahoma. KY breeders need their heads examined!


Once a young stud throws a GI winner their value rises, often dramatically and especially a son of Storm Cat(not all sons of Storm Cat are bad.... they're just simply over priced, save Storm and a Half... until recently anyway).

Evansville Slew never had a GI winner and while he has thrown a lot of useful horses none that catch the eye of the upper echelon of the industry.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:57 am

That's the problem with breeding today. Nobody wants the blue collar, hard knocking earner...they'd rather hope to come up with the needle in the haystack and a lot of hayburners that go with it.

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Postby BenB » Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:10 am

I used an Mellon bred one for a year (vestal bell) Sire shirley heights
out of an mare by hail to reason. She was the biggest nuts you,d ever could find trainer I Baldin
Throwing 5 foals all nuts(crazy) all winning all air problems and severe bleeders later on in their racing years. So no mellon,s bred for me

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Postby larrygene » Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:44 am

Just heard that Storm and a Half did not sell. He is still in Arkansas. The deal fell through. I'll bet he will be in KY sooner than later. We will see.

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Postby BJ » Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:59 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:That's the problem with breeding today. Nobody wants the blue collar, hard knocking earner...they'd rather hope to come up with the needle in the haystack and a lot of hayburners that go with it.


Most of the folks looking for the needle in a haystack, have a lot of hay to burn! :P

I, for one, wish they'd burn it somewhere, where it might actually do some good, other than to put a large chunk of change into one person's pocket. Might also serve to discourage some of the kool-aid drinking, backyard breeders :roll:

Ever notice how many beer distributors have tons to plunk down for horses? The money is in BEER! Not horses :roll:

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:47 pm

Didn't Zayat sell his business to Heinekin for a truckload of $$$?

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Postby LaTroienne » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:21 pm

According to this article: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... i_97185548

Zayat sold his business for $280 million.

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Postby horsenuts » Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:43 pm

larrygene wrote:Just heard that Storm and a Half did not sell. He is still in Arkansas. The deal fell through. I'll bet he will be in KY sooner than later. We will see.


Good news for now for the midwest/southwest breeders. Very hard to find a young Storm Cat son with a Grade I winner(Downthedustyroad) that recently sold for $1.5 million standing for $2,500(he's the only one I know of). Add to that a Storm and a Half horse ran second in a Santa Anita stake a day or two later so he can put some run in a horse. Storm and a Half has an outstanding bottom side and is a half brother to Lu Ravi. I'd highly recommend him for anyone with a mare that matches.. many of the Mr Prospector sons have done well i.e Downthedustyroad is out of a Crafty Prospector mare.

But as you referrence it's hard seeing him staying in Arkansas for $2,500 much longer. Heck, he's a better stud then many Storm Cat's currently standing in Kentucky for 5-10 times the stud fee.

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Postby serenarider » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:47 am

Rokeby Forever: That's the problem with breeding today. Nobody wants the blue collar, hard knocking earner...they'd rather hope to come up with the needle in the haystack and a lot of hayburners that go with it.


Best Quote ever :) And so very true :roll:

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Postby btcountess » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:02 am

Dittos to Lite the Fuse ($3,500) and Real Quiet ($5,000). RQ had Midnight Lute just miss last week in the GII San Fernando at SA and Pussycat Doll has been posting some great works. Would also add Mo Mon (son of Maria's Mon) in NJ - $2,500 and had a weanling filly sell for $20K.
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Postby Rokeby Forever » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:11 am

Even though Real Quiet had corrective surgery and was as thin as a pencil, it's kind of hard to believe that a horse that came within 3 inches of the Triple Crown is standing for $5,000. What if he won the Belmont Stakes photo? Would the Japanese have paid a zillion Dollars to stand him in the rice patties?