Cryptoclearance...

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Cryptoclearance...

Postby mikec » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:59 am

Anyone have any thoughts on him...good, bad or indifferent ? Seems to have ability to get the big horse every now & then.
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Postby LSB » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:38 am

He's a good breed-to-race sire, but his offspring generally don't do very well at the sales.

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Postby griff » Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:39 pm

was a leading broodmare sire at obe time. Don't know about now.

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Postby TBLADY » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:39 pm

I have seen and or worked with several Cryptos...they tend to range from crouse think horses to tall but lanky types...but they all seem to ahve a ton of leg under them. They also seem to be gritty hard knocking horses.
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Postby mikec » Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:39 am

Interesting thoughts ! I was reading the American Thoroughbred Review's analysis of the best & worst values, for what it's worth, and in 2005 Crypto was among the worst values for his fee. Article mentioned he was extremely inconsistent and really only has a handful of top flight runners. In 2006 he's not even mentioned. With all of that he's supposedly one hell of a broodmare sire. Confusing !
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Postby ragsdaj1 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:52 am

I've read many of the TB Review articles and know that if the sire cant cover his fee TB Review isn't likely to recommend.

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Postby austique » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:17 am

Cryptoclearance is a nice breed to race sire and he'll generally get you a sound, solid runner. They aren't the best looking animals or sometimes the classiest, but they make money. He has done quite well early on as broodie (and I'm not saying that cause I may or may not have one :lol: )
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Postby Karie » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:13 pm

I have one too.. I love her.. She broke her Maiden by 16 then decided she really didn't WANT to be a racehorse.
She is a sweetheart, and gorgeous believe it or not! Her broodmare sire is Deputy Minister so she should be really ugly.. ha ha

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Postby austique » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:18 pm

Mine's also quite lovely and out of a Broad Brush mare so she had every excuse to be ugly too :lol:
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Postby ragsdaj1 » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:32 pm

mikec,

Crypto may not be all that commercial but his NY son Millennium Wind seems to have started off well sales wise

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Postby jagger » Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:02 pm

He is about 21 or 22. He did finish 2nd in the Belmont and 3rd in the Preakness and his son Victory Gallop denied Risen Star a Triple Crown in one of the most exciting Belmonts. His father is Fappiano and the most successful conduit when inbreeding to Mr. P by a long way so a mare with Mr. P would be acceptable. His mother is a double copy mare. He has close to 80 GSV and >50 dosage points. He may not have seen the best mares. He is neither handsome nor ugly IMO. He stands at Margaux Farm which is 3 minutes off 64 near Midway. Very nice people there. For more information and a very nice conversation, call Romona at Margaux Farm.

He has done very well with Conquistador Cielo (another good Mr. P. conduit) mares and exceptionally well with Vice Regent (Deputy Minister's sire) mares.

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Postby Nessa » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:07 pm

jagger wrote:He is about 21 or 22. He did finish 2nd in the Belmont and 3rd in the Preakness and his son Victory Gallop denied Risen Star a Triple Crown in one of the most exciting Belmonts. His father is Fappiano and the most successful conduit when inbreeding to Mr. P by a long way so a mare with Mr. P would be acceptable. His mother is a double copy mare. He has close to 80 GSV and >50 dosage points. He may not have seen the best mares. He is neither handsome nor ugly IMO. He stands at Margaux Farm which is 3 minutes off 64 near Midway. Very nice people there. For more information and a very nice conversation, call Romona at Margaux Farm.

He has done very well with Conquistador Cielo (another good Mr. P. conduit) mares and exceptionally well with Vice Regent (Deputy Minister's sire) mares.


Actually that should be Victory Gallop denied Real Quiet the Triple Crown, as Risen Star won his Belmont with one of the fastest times.
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Postby sunday_silence » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:05 pm

They've almost lost him several times to laminitis. He wears special shoes up front and doesn't get normal turnout. I was surprised when they said he's a little high-strung.

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Postby jagger » Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:08 pm

Right you are, Nessa, and thanks. Risen Star, Big Red's best son, missed his TC by losing in the Derby.

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Postby mikec » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:25 am

Thanks much for all the responses. Spoke to Romona at Margaux and, you're right, it made for interesting conversation.
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