Pedigree Query

Word on the street is that Vicar is headed to Korea.

I'm glad I didn't send anything to him last year!

madelyn wrote:Word on the street is that Vicar is headed to Korea.

I'm glad I didn't send anything to him last year!

I considered him... but passed and glad I did. Whiskey Wisdom in Canada stands for around $4,000 US dollars and I though he was a much better Wild Again stallion. I never bred to him either.

madelyn wrote:Word on the street is that Vicar is headed to Korea.

I'm glad I didn't send anything to him last year!

NO!!!!! Not another Wild Again, I want to try to breed to I thought he was doing well

Please...NOT Korea or Japan or Saudi Arabia or Turkey OR China

Please look at my stallion,MUSTANG JOCK. Check out his pedigree and pic. You will not find a better Wild Again stallion than JOCK. His conformation is perfect!!! Read the thread"NEW KID ON THE BLOCK" and you will see what others than myself say about JOCK. IMO he is the best bred son of Wild Again standing in the USA.

You might know, the one year I have two mares in foal to one stallion, that one is Vicar. Of the few homebreds I've had, most of the stallions have been sent away. With Approval has headed off to Europe, Sligo Bay left KY for FL. Western Trader left Millennium Farms Texas for the hinterlands of Texas. Another sire is Geri, who was sent to Japan the following year. Millennium Wind had a reduced stud fee, then moved to New York.

I thought I was breaking the trend when Pete was able to get me an inexpensive stud fee last year on Arch before it started to climb, but then the mare aborted. So now I have only three pregnant mares, with the latter in foal to Prime Timber in NY.

On my wish list next spring is to breed to Lion Heart, Rock Slide and Dehere at least. Hopefully they'll either stay put or appreciate in value.

henthorn wrote:You might know, the one year I have two mares in foal to one stallion, that one is Vicar. Of the few homebreds I've had, most of the stallions have been sent away. With Approval has headed off to Europe, Sligo Bay left KY for FL. Western Trader left Millennium Farms Texas for the hinterlands of Texas. Another sire is Geri, who was sent to Japan the following year. Millennium Wind had a reduced stud fee, then moved to New York.

I thought I was breaking the trend when Pete was able to get me an inexpensive stud fee last year on Arch before it started to climb, but then the mare aborted. So now I have only three pregnant mares, with the latter in foal to Prime Timber in NY.

On my wish list next spring is to breed to Lion Heart, Rock Slide and Dehere at least. Hopefully they'll either stay put or appreciate in value.

Well, henthorn if Vicar goes on to do as well as Wild Rush you'll be in great shape regardless of being "shipped out". Only difference I think WR went to Japan while Vicar is going to Korea. Vicar is doing pretty good overall as a sire thus far. Good luck.

Hi, Horsenuts. I chose Vicar for two of my mares--Shake On It and Hop to It, because of the linebreeding of Nearctic, Khaled, and Bold Ruler, etc. And Darby Dan's offer of 2-for-1 special on stud fee made him very appealing to me. I have no evidence that these are especially strong pedigree matches, but I love the duplications of so many quality horses from Phalaris and Non-Phalaris lines. Lots of Hyperion, and many 5 x 6 or closer crosses of nice ancestors. Check out the hypos.

He's also a first cousin to my mare Vivid Dreams, same second dam. So I feel like he's already in the family. (And uncle of my challenging filly Dreams for Hire--see avatar photo).

Yes, Wild Rush is doing well in Japan, but Korea? eek, that is a shame.

A lot of people are saying good things about Mustang Jock. There's another Wild Again stallion, Illinois homebred Chicago Six by Wild Again out of Secretaridge by Secretariat - raced entirely regionally till age seven, 39 starts, multiple stakes wins, turf and dirt, multiple distances, track records. Standing at Hill 'n Dale in Illinois which is where he was bred. Not getting much publicity but apparently attracted about 25 mares last year, and first crop of 10 named foals are two year olds. His first runner won a maiden claim first time out 3.5 furlongs in Alberta, and followed it with a win in a more expensive claim, 6 furlongs also in Alberta. Even though she's in claiming races in Alberta, that filly's winnings plus claiming value is already several times what was paid for her. Of course sample size is a bit small (duh) but lets keep a watch on Mustang Jock and Chicago Six because they both have owners motivated to keep them so they won't be going to Korea or any place else any time soon. Wild Again fans need not despair yet.

MUSTANG JOCK will be staying in Louisiana unless someone comes along with a big fat pocketbook!! For a regional stallion, Louisiana is the place to be considering their lucrative breeders awards and the Louisiana accredited purses. IMO Louisiana breeding and racing programs are just beginning to take off and I want to be there. Am very optimistic concerning the TB horse industry in Louisiana. By the way, JOCK came in late in the breeding season and we still bred 41 mares.

Hi Guys,

"On my wish list next spring is to breed to Lion Heart, Rock Slide and Dehere at least. Hopefully they'll either stay put or appreciate in value."

Henthorn I hate to see your wish list because that means they will all be leaving for parts unknown!!!

Look it matters not where they go as long as someone is looking out for them from over here. It didnt help Ferdinand that he went to Japan so whoever it was that profited from Vicars efforts on the track and upon syndication , hopefully they will keep an eye out for his wellbeing. If I had raced a multiple stakes winner he would never leave my radar and would retire to a spare room when all is said and done. I have delivered horses to Korea twice and the unloading process was horrifying, hopefully now they move the stud horses in a fully equipped Instone Box instead of a flatbed truck.