Point Given: Pity the Mare Owners!

[kimberley mine]

The new stud fees from Three Chimneys are out.

Dynaformer has been discussed in another thread.

Point Given dropped from $50k to $30k. I feel SO SORRY for the mare owners who booked to him over the last few years. $125k --> $75k --> $50k --> $30k. That's a 75% decline in price in five years. If he were a stock, investor confidence would be so bad he'd be close to being delisted.

Pay attention, Smarty Jones! This could be you.

Albert the Great is hanging on by a thread. If his colt Nobiz like Shobiz runs well in the Champagne, he gets to stay. Otherwise, he's toast.

[henthorn]

Point Given was overpriced from the start, and breeding to him at huge prices was speculative at best. Gulch has not been given much respect as a sire of sires, and Thunder Gulch has proven inconsistent in percentage of stakes winners, and doubtful to be a great sire of sires. PG is a big horse with attitude problems, and likely doesn't suit a large mare base, especially as the "new" is wearing off, and at those previous prices. Smart investors could have seen it coming and looked elsewhere for better value.

Albert the Great has never caught on with the public at sales or stud farm, from the Go For Gin and Cormorant ancestry, and lack of expected stallion value.

[reese]

The fact that Prince Salmen did right after PG went to stud and his estate liquidated, didn't help PG get off to the best start with support from bb mares.

PG was a h*ll of a race horse. Too bad he hasn't gotten a breakthrough horse to save his career.

[Heidilady]

Not like he's not tryin' though, bless his heart. Technically he has a G1 winner in Point Ashley but her stock's not as strong as it was in the Juvenile Fillies. She's still up there though.