Can this stallion be commerical?

[TomFool]

Be Like Mike by Unbridleds Song out of Thiscatsforcarly by Storm Cat. He def fits on first glance pedigree. He flashed ability as well in setting a track record albeit @ Mountaineer. I cant commet on if he had speed or his conformation, maybe someone can help me there? He was only 4 for 14 & earned $174,202 & is not at a stallion making opperation in south La. All things considered he seems very much like a play at $1,500 in a rapid growing market. Thoughts?

[henthorn]

Hi, Tom Fool. Standing a stallion is a lot of work and aggravation. Are you up to the challenge? Successful stud farms have good marketing, networking skills, reliable farm help, and brand name stallions. If you're not willing to put the work into being successful, you may just want to use the stud for your own mares. But since he's unproven, you'd better have proven mares.

[larrygene]

I say "AMEN" to Henthorn. I just got the advertising costs for my two stallions and they certainly don't give it away!!

[angelsprite]

TomFool,
I sure would roll 1500 at the horse, if you're selling. He would likely fit right into the Texas market. I will see if I can put something together if you haven't already sold him. Please e-mail with your contact info.
My e-mail address is [email protected]
My blog site is http://arbordelhorsefarm.com
We will be standing a couple of nice stallions in 2007. They are on the blog with photos and pedigree analysis.

[toadie]

All things considered he seems very much like a play at $1,500 in a rapid growing market. Thoughts?

I do believe he means his stud fee is 1500 If he is in fact for sale for 1500.00, I can probably come up with a buyer PDQ. Last I heard he's at Trader's Rest

[angelsprite]

Toadie,
if you can come up with a group, I would happily stand him for you beside my guys. I am working on the nominations and advertising now, so it would be a good time to slip him in. I sure like his pedigree and he's got what he needs to stand in Texas. I believe we could work a deal if you were interested.

[TBLADY]

Commercial is one thing...regional sire is another. Being a track record holder at a mid to lower level claiming track is not much to bank on. Now if this horse had a little blacktype in his career and hasnt run very cheaply then you just might have a nice regional sire who could stand out in a crowd.

[angelsprite]

Performance doesn't matter once a horse has proven himself as a sire. If you can breed the mares to prove the horse, he can stand, regardless of what he himself has accomplished. Many historic sires never made it to a race, but their owners had the mares to bring to them to get their stud career off the ground.

[TBLADY]

thats true...and Im sure you can buy all Stakes winning mares to breed to a young stallion prospect like this. As long as you ahve about 4 yrs to help prove the stallions worth and the money to invest in 20 or so mares to support him. If he set the track recrod at mountaineer park why would you want to send him to another state....Wva has a nice up and coming state bred program.

With money anythings possible!

[angelsprite]

TBlady,
True. That's how I'm starting my guys out. With stakes producers. I want proven mares to give them the best opportunities to show what they can do. With good lines that are compatable in the pedigree. The thing is, you can get older mares that have produced well for less than you can buy young mares who ran well and haven't yet proven they can produce.
Leases are usually negotiable with people who have many good mares and want to get the young ones going and don't want to have to feed empty ones.
There's always a way if a person is serious about establishing a stallion and keeping his offspring sales averages up.

[TomFool]

I am sorry for the confusion in this post. Be Like Mike I have no connection to as I guess I should have worded it better in that would or can a foal by him be commerical? not even meaning hitting a homerun but just a foal by him out of a nice mare having appeal. He is standing at Traders Rest for a $1,500 stud fee. Of all the studs in Louisiana I feel he is on a shorter list even though you may or will not hear about him that much when compaired to others. I feel like he Rulers Court & Wildcat Shoes have a bit to offer as young stallion prospects in the state @ usuable stud fees. Thoughts?

[madelyn]

I don't know that $1500 isn't a tiny bit steep for a horse very recently advertised for sale for $2500.

In terms of "commercial," in a word, no (just my opinion). He might turn up quite useful for breed to race with a good mare. This stallion will not be "commercial", again just my opinion, until he has a blacktype baby in the starting gate. He is not any "better" on the page than Daring Bid in LA for $1000 with a 25% discount for prepayment ($750).