Small Stallions
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chicago78
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Small Stallions
Hi. I'm wondering who everybody thinks are the best small stallions? We have a mare that needs to go to a small stud, because she's been throwing very large, gangly babies. Her name is Qualatative, and she's in the database. Thanks for any help.
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angelsprite
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Check out the article on The Texas Horsemen's site under the Breeders Brags and articles of interest... tab about regional sires.
Just scroll down.
www.texashorsemen.org
Just scroll down.
www.texashorsemen.org
Re: Small Stallions
hi chicago78
I don't tknow that it's "a small stud" (your words) that your mare needs...but rather a stallion that does not (in general) get "large, gangly babies" (your words again).
With that in mind, I strongly suggest that you consider using (one of my favorites)...Successful Appeal. I believe it's fair to say that his foals (in general) seem to range from the smaller side of average to about average+- in height. He also often gets a sturdy, robust son or daughter...with good bone.
Although Successful Appeal himself would likely be considered by many as taller, more athletic and racier looking than most Valid Appeals...he seems to most often get as I described above.
For what it's worth...SA has experienced significant success with Mr Prospector-line daughters close up (examples: Closing Argument is out of a Mr Greeley daughter...Lunarpal is out of a Quiet American...Punch Appeal is out of a Two Punch mare). That said, and considering her Mr Prospector connection (Qualatative being by Woodman), arguably she might be a perfect fit for Successful Appeal.
As for the sales arena...a good example might be his current G3-placed Chagall (who is out of an Unbridled daughter)...and purchased (if I recall correctly) for approx $800k+- by Tabor, Magnier and company. An impressive sale, don't ya think, based on his $5k+- stud fee at the time of her conception. It's becoming quite normal for a good Successful Appeal to sell VERY well.
Even SA's current G1-Spinaway winner Appealiong Zophie was a product of when it cost approx $5k+- to get to him. Arguably, Successaful Appeal is making a very strong statement and case for himself, and I expect that the best (and many of them) is yet to come.
For what it's worth...I understand he's been bumped to $40k in 2007.
Respectfully
chicago78 wrote:We have a mare that needs to go to a small stud, because she's been throwing very large, gangly babies. Her name is Qualatative, and she's in the database.
I don't tknow that it's "a small stud" (your words) that your mare needs...but rather a stallion that does not (in general) get "large, gangly babies" (your words again).
With that in mind, I strongly suggest that you consider using (one of my favorites)...Successful Appeal. I believe it's fair to say that his foals (in general) seem to range from the smaller side of average to about average+- in height. He also often gets a sturdy, robust son or daughter...with good bone.
Although Successful Appeal himself would likely be considered by many as taller, more athletic and racier looking than most Valid Appeals...he seems to most often get as I described above.
For what it's worth...SA has experienced significant success with Mr Prospector-line daughters close up (examples: Closing Argument is out of a Mr Greeley daughter...Lunarpal is out of a Quiet American...Punch Appeal is out of a Two Punch mare). That said, and considering her Mr Prospector connection (Qualatative being by Woodman), arguably she might be a perfect fit for Successful Appeal.
As for the sales arena...a good example might be his current G3-placed Chagall (who is out of an Unbridled daughter)...and purchased (if I recall correctly) for approx $800k+- by Tabor, Magnier and company. An impressive sale, don't ya think, based on his $5k+- stud fee at the time of her conception. It's becoming quite normal for a good Successful Appeal to sell VERY well.
Even SA's current G1-Spinaway winner Appealiong Zophie was a product of when it cost approx $5k+- to get to him. Arguably, Successaful Appeal is making a very strong statement and case for himself, and I expect that the best (and many of them) is yet to come.
For what it's worth...I understand he's been bumped to $40k in 2007.
Respectfully
Last edited by FOS on Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:35 am, edited 7 times in total.
Pioneering is a more refined gent of about 16 hh, and is starting to get some winners. Crafty Prospector is still around, and he's less than 16hh.
Hap is a little guy, and son of Theatrical. Birdstone has a great female family, isn't very large. Silver Ghost is a shorty.
My favorite for a reasonable price and the pedigree matchup is Vision and Verse, who is under-appreciated, and moderate in size.
Hap is a little guy, and son of Theatrical. Birdstone has a great female family, isn't very large. Silver Ghost is a shorty.
My favorite for a reasonable price and the pedigree matchup is Vision and Verse, who is under-appreciated, and moderate in size.
Rocking H
hi henthorn
All things considered...I suggest that there is NO dream connected to Pioneering...or Hap...and that the thrill is gone with the old boys Crafty Prospector and Silver Ghost. As for Vision and Verse, it would not surprise me if at some point he's sent to a new home (other than Hill n Dale).
As for Birdstone, he was a VERY good racehorse; but, the only weanling I've seen by him (thus far) was actually tall and gangly with huge joints. That said...I'd have to see some more Birdstones before I could consider him.
Best to you.
Respectfully
henthorn wrote:Pioneering is a more refined gent of about 16 hh, and is starting to get some winners. Crafty Prospector is still around, and he's less than 16hh.
Hap is a little guy, and son of Theatrical. Birdstone has a great female family, isn't very large. Silver Ghost is a shorty.
My favorite for a reasonable price and the pedigree matchup is Vision and Verse, who is under-appreciated, and moderate in size.
All things considered...I suggest that there is NO dream connected to Pioneering...or Hap...and that the thrill is gone with the old boys Crafty Prospector and Silver Ghost. As for Vision and Verse, it would not surprise me if at some point he's sent to a new home (other than Hill n Dale).
As for Birdstone, he was a VERY good racehorse; but, the only weanling I've seen by him (thus far) was actually tall and gangly with huge joints. That said...I'd have to see some more Birdstones before I could consider him.
Best to you.
Respectfully
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Chicago,
May I suggest that you not look for how big or small the stallion's progeny are, but go looking for what I call the "quick and ichy" type. Tesio called it "nervous energy". Horses who throw that often tend to be of lighter, but quite dense and durable bone, with linear muscle, quick reflexes, and very athletic, regardless of height.
Size can be a good thing as long as you can get the good overlap time and energy you need with good coordination. Size doesn't matter. It's the biochemistry that makes a horse power up, or never fire.
May I suggest that you not look for how big or small the stallion's progeny are, but go looking for what I call the "quick and ichy" type. Tesio called it "nervous energy". Horses who throw that often tend to be of lighter, but quite dense and durable bone, with linear muscle, quick reflexes, and very athletic, regardless of height.
Size can be a good thing as long as you can get the good overlap time and energy you need with good coordination. Size doesn't matter. It's the biochemistry that makes a horse power up, or never fire.