Pedigree Query

Does anybody have an opinion of him as a sire? I think he has a real chance to be a good sire. I like his pedigree a lot, and he was good enough to win stakes on the dirt and turf. I also think he's a real good value.

Along with Giants Causeway, Forestry seems to be flavour of the month as far as Storm Cat's son's go.

Love to get him on the shuttle.

Double cross of His Majesty too, best strain of Ribot to have in a family.

Also for the aussies amongst us, fifth dam is Magic Night, first female winner of the golden slipper!

Absolutely horrible front legs! I can't stress enough how bad he is.

probably a good chance on turf then

I saw him at Airdrie, and I thought he was just fine! Maybe my glasses needed cleaning, but I really didn't see problems in his legs. He's more light-bodied than most, so maybe I overlooked some of his conformational problems. Classy sort. I thought he would make a nice match for lots of mares.

Some stallions with bad front legs, Danehill, Sir Tristram, Northern Dancer

Bad front legs wont ruin a horse, if the engine at the back is ok, they can excel on turf where there is less sustained pressure on the forelegs, than speed oriented dirt racing. On turf, often all that is required is a 200m burst of acceleration

wallinga wrote:Some stallions with bad front legs, Danehill, Sir Tristram, Northern Dancer

Bad front legs wont ruin a horse, if the engine at the back is ok, they can excel on turf where there is less sustained pressure on the forelegs, than speed oriented dirt racing. On turf, often all that is required is a 200m burst of acceleration

You honestly can't believe that bad front legs won't hurt a horse. It's basic mechanics. If a horse has long pasterns, the chances of straining a suspensory is greatly increased (seen it many times.) Stallions overseas, such as Hector Protector, throw such horrible looking front legs on their foals that it's crippled (pun intended) his stud career.

wallinga wrote:Some stallions with bad front legs, Danehill, Sir Tristram, Northern Dancer

Bad front legs wont ruin a horse, if the engine at the back is ok, they can excel on turf where there is less sustained pressure on the forelegs, than speed oriented dirt racing. On turf, often all that is required is a 200m burst of acceleration

Can't speak for Sir Tristam, but Northern Dancer's and Danehill's front legs don't look anywhere near as bad as Forest Grove's crooked pins. I was amazed they even used his conformation photo in the BH instead of an action shot.

So concensus would be not to breed to him?

There is no consensus. He is untested as a sire, and very few of us on the forum have posted about him. See him for yourself, or talk to the Airdrie folks about how he might work with YOUR mare. Apparently only two of us have seen him, and we disagreed on what we saw.