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Afleet Alex fertility
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:41 pm
by freshman
Just saw an advertisement for him and just after his fee listing, it said (93% fertility). I've never seen or noticed this sort of thing before in the glossies.
Anyone know why this is included? My first thought is that it is to quell any doubts about his ability as a sire that has, presumably, lost a testicle due to an inguinal hernia several months ago. But that 93% rate would have had to be based on the mares he settled before this event, anyway. And considering all those ridglings out there, obviously stallions manage fine with just one of the boys.
I may be on the wrong track, just guessing? Maybe it's just bragging about how good he is, period.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:48 am
by Heidilady
Hmm that's curious. I didn't see the ad but I could see them advertising how many he got in foal. Interesting way of doing it.
It's a wonder nobody just flatout prints "our stallion is super virile, we promise." I think we all know that among animals at stud, Kevin Federline's got em all beat in the fertility department---the man's a baby making machine.
Rate of Twins
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:55 am
by hpkingjr
The next question to ask of the super fertile is how many mares come up with twins? When the sperm survives for several days, often another follicle will ovulate resulting in a much higher per cent of twins with those complications. Seems like there's always a dark side.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:38 am
by Skipitgirl
LOL! K-Fed should have been gelded A LONG time ago!

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:53 am
by louis finochio
Their is a publicatiion in Europe that gives the fertility % of each stalliion.
I hope someone in the US will follow suit.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:46 pm
by Intrinsic Worth
Just look at live foal reports, that tells a lot about a stallion.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:13 pm
by casallc
Skipitgirl wrote:LOL! K-Fed should have been gelded A LONG time ago!

He is now known as FED-EX.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:03 pm
by sunday_silence
A bloodstock agent told me around the time of Alex's retirement that there was a rumor going around that Alex had poor fertility. I think it was related to the fact that there was this big thing that he was probably going to Castleton Lyons, then wound up at Gainesway. Apparently there was suspicion that a deal fell through with CL because he flunked a fertility test. I'm glad he does seem to be fertile. Is there a way to find out how good his brother's fertility is? I seem to remember hearing somewhere that he was having a problem settling his mares.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:05 pm
by magic code
Intrinsic Worth wrote:Just look at live foal reports, that tells a lot about a stallion.
For top stallions, yes. For regional stallions, not necessarily. Small-time, low-budget breeders for whatever reason often experience Extreme Difficulty in reporting live foals promptly.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:48 pm
by summerhorse
sunday_silence wrote:A bloodstock agent told me around the time of Alex's retirement that there was a rumor going around that Alex had poor fertility. I think it was related to the fact that there was this big thing that he was probably going to Castleton Lyons, then wound up at Gainesway. Apparently there was suspicion that a deal fell through with CL because he flunked a fertility test. I'm glad he does seem to be fertile. Is there a way to find out how good his brother's fertility is? I seem to remember hearing somewhere that he was having a problem settling his mares.
But for a stallion worth as much as he sold for they would for sure have fertility insurance and you can't get FI with a previous fertility test.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:01 am
by Roguelet
Intrinsic Worth wrote:Just look at live foal reports, that tells a lot about a stallion.
I have to disagree with that. A stallion can settle every one of his mares and still end up with a low live foal report... that's not his fault. Mares get sold/moved/stressed, etc. to cause abortions, or their owners just don't do the paperwork (yes, that really does actually happen!) or mares die, etc. There is pretty much an entire year between the time that a stallion completes his job and the time that a foal hits the ground, and a lot can happen during that time... none of which should be a reflection on the stallion, IMO.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:44 am
by Barbaro06
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:04 pm
by summerhorse
Roguelet wrote:Intrinsic Worth wrote:Just look at live foal reports, that tells a lot about a stallion.
I have to disagree with that. A stallion can settle every one of his mares and still end up with a low live foal report... that's not his fault. Mares get sold/moved/stressed, etc. to cause abortions, or their owners just don't do the paperwork (yes, that really does actually happen!) or mares die, etc. There is pretty much an entire year between the time that a stallion completes his job and the time that a foal hits the ground, and a lot can happen during that time... none of which should be a reflection on the stallion, IMO.
And some foals that are born too weak or hopelessly crooked are put down, some with the stallion manager's blessing and some with out anyone's knowledge! To avoid the stud fee for a useless foal.
many in foal mares are sold at mixed auctions, in some areas that can mean a trip to the slaughter house.

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:39 am
by BenB
The common ads about this subject are, how many mares in a % are tested in foal at 01-10 from all that were sent to a stud, because than most of the payment has to be made.