So, What is the deal on Formal Gold? Gets lots of 2yo winners, lots of stakes horses, and good soundness, but little respect.
Is there something wrong with him, or is he just not fashionable? Seems like he would be a good breed to race sire.
Formal Gold
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fastappy
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Formal Gold
Formal Gold is an excellent breed to race sire. I think the knock on him would be the same with many California based sires, and that is, not being able to get the big horse. FG is very solid with 70% starters f/foals, 5% SWs, 7% SP, 16% wins lifetime, $51K avg p/starter & a healthy median of 24K.
124 starters/79 winners and 2.6 million in earnings for 2006! Now the negatives are; From 7 crops & 311 foals of racing age;
1) AEI 1.40 vs CI 1.77
2) 2 Graded SWs (1%)
3) His APEX for 'A' runners (top 2% of earners in a given year) is 1.2 or just over 2% of starters (average). This is reflected in the fact his top 10 lifetime earners have winnings between $174K-$467K. He has not been able to get the big horse despite getting mares who have CI's of 1.77.
4) He is from the Miswaki line which is more of a broodmare sire line of Mr. P. Not many successful sons of Miswaki at stud (imo) and Black Tie Affair (Standing for $7,500) would be the exception.
Nonetheless, I love Formal Gold for being a consistent producer of productive race horses, and at 5K very reasonable. It's not a swing for the fences selection and his 2006 yearlings went form 1K to 22K, & lifetime avergage of 26K.
He seems to cross with every bloodline out there and even has one stakes winner inbred 3x3 to Miswaki. FG was one helluva runner, winning over HOY Skipaway 3 times in one year!
124 starters/79 winners and 2.6 million in earnings for 2006! Now the negatives are; From 7 crops & 311 foals of racing age;
1) AEI 1.40 vs CI 1.77
2) 2 Graded SWs (1%)
3) His APEX for 'A' runners (top 2% of earners in a given year) is 1.2 or just over 2% of starters (average). This is reflected in the fact his top 10 lifetime earners have winnings between $174K-$467K. He has not been able to get the big horse despite getting mares who have CI's of 1.77.
4) He is from the Miswaki line which is more of a broodmare sire line of Mr. P. Not many successful sons of Miswaki at stud (imo) and Black Tie Affair (Standing for $7,500) would be the exception.
Nonetheless, I love Formal Gold for being a consistent producer of productive race horses, and at 5K very reasonable. It's not a swing for the fences selection and his 2006 yearlings went form 1K to 22K, & lifetime avergage of 26K.
He seems to cross with every bloodline out there and even has one stakes winner inbred 3x3 to Miswaki. FG was one helluva runner, winning over HOY Skipaway 3 times in one year!
Adore the Gold may be the big horse in the making. Here's some recent works:
ADORE THE GOLD worked 5f ft in :59.20 H (1/21) at GP, 01/25/07
ADORE THE GOLD worked 5f ft in :58.60 H (1/12) at GP, 01/17/07
ADORE THE GOLD worked 4f ft in :48.20 B (9/51) at GP, 01/06/07
But I like fastappy's summary and it hits on the main reason I like Formal Gold. No you probably are not going to the Derby or breeding the fastest preview at the two year old sales. But you have a good solid shot of breeding solid six figure racers that will help your mare's page and run for more than a few times. I think he's a good choice at $5000.
ADORE THE GOLD worked 5f ft in :59.20 H (1/21) at GP, 01/25/07
ADORE THE GOLD worked 5f ft in :58.60 H (1/12) at GP, 01/17/07
ADORE THE GOLD worked 4f ft in :48.20 B (9/51) at GP, 01/06/07
But I like fastappy's summary and it hits on the main reason I like Formal Gold. No you probably are not going to the Derby or breeding the fastest preview at the two year old sales. But you have a good solid shot of breeding solid six figure racers that will help your mare's page and run for more than a few times. I think he's a good choice at $5000.
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Rokeby Forever
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Formal Gold's Iselin (when he dusted Skip Away and Distorted Humor) was as good a race as a horse can run. It's really a shame he got hurt prepping for Dubai - this horse was a monster!
What synthetics are to California racing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU
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fastappy
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Formal Gold
[quote="Sysonby"]Adore the Gold may be the big horse in the making. Here's some recent works:
ADORE THE GOLD worked 5f ft in :59.20 H (1/21) at GP, 01/25/07
ADORE THE GOLD worked 5f ft in :58.60 H (1/12) at GP, 01/17/07
ADORE THE GOLD worked 4f ft in :48.20 B (9/51) at GP, 01/06/07
But I like fastappy's summary and it hits on the main reason I like Formal Gold. No you probably are not going to the Derby or breeding the fastest preview at the two year old sales. But you have a good solid shot of breeding solid six figure racers that will help your mare's page and run for more than a few times. I think he's a good choice at $5000.[/quote]
How right you are! Kudos on your selection and an impressive win for for this son of Formal Gold. Now 4 for 5!
ADORE THE GOLD worked 5f ft in :59.20 H (1/21) at GP, 01/25/07
ADORE THE GOLD worked 5f ft in :58.60 H (1/12) at GP, 01/17/07
ADORE THE GOLD worked 4f ft in :48.20 B (9/51) at GP, 01/06/07
But I like fastappy's summary and it hits on the main reason I like Formal Gold. No you probably are not going to the Derby or breeding the fastest preview at the two year old sales. But you have a good solid shot of breeding solid six figure racers that will help your mare's page and run for more than a few times. I think he's a good choice at $5000.[/quote]
How right you are! Kudos on your selection and an impressive win for for this son of Formal Gold. Now 4 for 5!