Hyperion line Stallions

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Hyperion line Stallions

Postby zinn21 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:03 am

Are there any left in North America? Are there any significant lines left in the world?

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Postby geowarrior » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:55 am

Halo (a poster to this board) knows of one called Copper Man, not serving many mares, living in Florida. He's a son of Medieval Man.

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Postby Cryptic Ninja » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:35 am

Theres still plenty of Hyperion lines sires in Australia. The same Star Kingdom
branch as Copper Man.

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Postby ellen » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:53 am

a 1985 model, but still listed on TT...

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Postby kimberley mine » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:52 pm

The Star Kingdom line is arguably the most important breed-shaping sireline in Australia although it is presently being eclipsed by Danehill. The biggest name still at stud is Canny Lad, who is getting up there in age. His multiple Gr-1 winning son He's No Pie Eater is currently running and may take up the colours for his sire. Other Star Kingdom line sires include Hurricane Sky and Dodge, useful stayer Kauto Star, Show A Heart, and champion sprinter Our Maizcay. I think there is a young Gr-1 winning Star Kingdom line horse whose name I can't remember that has just started out.

Note to Aussie breeders: look at the pedigrees of Hurricane Sky and He's No Pie Eater, and then take your Last Tycoon mares to Canny Lad. :)

In Europe, Cadeax Genereux is holding the torch. His sons Bahamian Bounty and Touch Of The Blues may carry it for him.

In South Africa, Goldmark is the lone descendent of Forli (ARG) via Golden Thatch. His best offspring is a gelding.

In North America there are still a few sons/grandsons of Nodouble, sons of Medeival Man, and maybe a Rollicking-line or two in Maryland, and that's about it.

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Postby Cathyleabo » Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:53 am

My yearling stud colt has Hyperion on the dams side. Is this significant?
I am still learning about TB lines, this is not one I am familiar with.
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Postby Cathyleabo » Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:58 am

Oops! No Hyperion on dams side, it is the sire line.
Did I mention I am new to this?
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Postby Derring » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:01 am

What is the name of your colt's Sire?
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Postby kimberley mine » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:12 am

I don't know where on earth I thought Kauto Star was a Star Kingdom line horse standing in Oz, rather than a rather successful jumper in the UK. The Star Kingdom-line stayer (a rarity in and of itself) was Curata Storm. Go figure.

The young Star Kingdom line horse I had in mind was Reenact. His first foals have just started running.

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Postby Cathyleabo » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:32 am

Persian Turban by Sadlers Wells
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Postby Pete » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:43 pm

Hi Cathy,

Hyperion was once a dominant world wide sire line that has all but disappeared here in North America. Often the fall of a sire line is accompanied by a selection in the most successful sires that excludes that stallion's blood, but the most notable exception in North America are the Nearctic line stallions like Northern Dancer and Icecapade who readily accept Hyperion blood and can produce top stallions that carry him.

Your colt has a wonderful pedigree. He has Hyperion 5x6x7 through Lady Angela in Northern Dancer, through Aristophanes in Sadler's Wells and Pensive in Alydar. I don't see any problem with Hyperion in your colt's pedigree.

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Postby wallinga » Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:00 pm

kimberley mine wrote:I don't know where on earth I thought Kauto Star was a Star Kingdom line horse standing in Oz, rather than a rather successful jumper in the UK. The Star Kingdom-line stayer (a rarity in and of itself) was Curata Storm. Go figure.

The young Star Kingdom line horse I had in mind was Reenact. His first foals have just started running.


Old Spice in Western Australia still gets the odd good horse. He is responsible for Rogan Josh still to my knowledge the only horse with any star kingdom to win the cup

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Postby Cryptic Ninja » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:25 pm

I hope Skalato does well after being shunned by Victorian breeders.
That horse had so much bad luck.

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Postby wallinga » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:51 pm

Cryptic Ninja wrote:I hope Skalato does well after being shunned by Victorian breeders.
That horse had so much bad luck.


His bad luck was another Star Kingdom line horse's good fortune, when he had the Caulfield Guineas stripped after the roids debacle, Show A Heart was awarded the race.

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Postby Cryptic Ninja » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:44 pm

Exactly, and look how he is going at stud. I hope Skalato gets his oppotunities, he deserves it.