Pedigree Query

Story at the Blood Horse...

I'd steer clear no matter how low the fee may be. I'll predict they try for $20,000 which is about $20,000 to high for my liking... in fact I don't know if I'd accept a "freebie".


Stephen Got Even is fast becoming a very ordinary stud. He has WAY to many common horses for my liking.

SW never raced after the ankle surgery, right? Why wait this long? Were there any comeback attempts?

He was back at the track 2 or 3 different times and breezed quite a bit.

they were pointing him towards Del mar.. that's too bad.. I liked him

i'm out on Wonderboy as well. 10k I would think about it, but there is not enough value at 20kish

This is a tragic loss for racing. Between Cobalt Blue going kaput and this horse retiring, we may never get to see Merv Griffin on TV again.

Other deep closing Breeders' Cup Juvenile Winners:

Rhythm
Arazi
Timber Country
Anees
Action This Day

Anyone ever seen them on a leading sires list?

So breeders should avoid Street Sense like the plague...right, Michael?

CA Michael wrote:Other deep closing Breeders' Cup Juvenile Winners:

Rhythm
Arazi
Timber Country
Anees
Action This Day

Anyone ever seen them on a leading sires list?

anees was put down

don't know what to say about Arazi, I like his pedigree

rhythm has done his fair share of damage in the shed

SS was heads and sholders better than all of that list with the exepction of arazi... maybe stevie wonderboy but we will never know about him.

however, the only thing that scares me about SS as a sire is that his sire has not proven anything execpt that he can sire a runner or two. with that in mind, I would be somewhat leery on breeding to him at a high fee.


i will tell you what does bother me... the number of MACHIAVELLIAN sires that have to be pensioned because of injury or even put down early intot heir stud careers. it's staggering

bdw,

Anees sired several crops before his premature death. Considering that he was a son of sire-producer UNBRIDLED, his performance at stud was at best disappointing.

Arazi's was as poor a stallion as he was good as a racehorse.

Timber Country stood most of his career in Japan where, according to what info I could find on him, was so lackluster he was shipped off to the U.A.E. to stand.

Rhythm (Mr. Prospector-Dance Number) started his career with great fanfare at Ashford Stud, was banished to Japan, then Australia, then California (later shuttling to New Zealand). He's left only several good racehorses, both in Australia, one of which took the Melbourne Cup. Given his rich opportunities, I don't think he could be considered a success in most people's book.

Plodders like these horses, and Stevie Wonderboy, are up against the odds as stallions.

I would take anyone's bet that STREET CRY develops into one of the world's most successful stallions. His progeny are outperforming any other 2nd year sire, and the best are yet to come.

Street Cry is absolutely sensational as a sire! out of 80 foals in his first crop, he's had 10 SW and 7 GSW, you can't get any better than that. In my mind, the only other stallion that has achieved the same level of success in recent years was Distorted Humor.

I never said street cry wouldn't be a good stallion.. you misread me. On the contary.. I'm concerened about him living up to his legacy and crooking tomorrow!

So while we are on the topic of Street Cry.. I have a lovely filly by him, but born April 28th this year (maybe a bit late).. would you be rushing this one to the November sale or waiting hoping for even more improvement in him as a sire?

madelyn wrote:So while we are on the topic of Street Cry.. I have a lovely filly by him, but born April 28th this year (maybe a bit late).. would you be rushing this one to the November sale or waiting hoping for even more improvement in him as a sire?

I would keep her past the November sale. However, it is a catch 22. If SS sucks in the BC the hype may go down on Street Cry but if he does something amazing you may get a ton for the filly.

CA Michael wrote:Action This Day

Anyone ever seen them on a leading sires list?

That would be a remarkable feat since he doesn't have any foals to race yet.






and no, I really don't expect to, not for another 5 years minimum and they'll banish him first, just like they did with most of the other Kris S. sons in Kentucky. Not every horse can have the Claiborne spin machine behind it.