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Postby da hoss » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:41 am

Does anyone know why - On the Bris net Stallion register - Royal's SW's are 12% and on the Blood Horse Register and Coolmore's website he shows about 8%? It doesn't say anything about being just Northern Hemisphere, etc.

Also - any suggestions on Royal Academy vs. Sky Classic -advantages or disadvantages of either?? Or toss up? Breeding to race

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Royal vs Sky

Postby jacksontyger » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:05 am

I would like your thoughts as I am down to those two on a mare of mine. The mare is a grandaughter of Smart Strike so I like the double of No Class with Sky Classic but she is also a grandaughter of Long Legend the dam of Mr Greeley so I could have the family of Finsceal Beo with a Royal Academy offspring. I have seen them both and Royal Academy is awesome. Royal Academy also has more runners on the dirt. I still like Sky Classic alot. Your thoughts. It may be more difficult to get to Royal Academy. JT

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Re: Royal vs Sky

Postby kimberley mine » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:31 pm

jacksontyger wrote:I would like your thoughts as I am down to those two on a mare of mine. The mare is a grandaughter of Smart Strike so I like the double of No Class with Sky Classic but she is also a grandaughter of Long Legend the dam of Mr Greeley so I could have the family of Finsceal Beo with a Royal Academy offspring. I have seen them both and Royal Academy is awesome. Royal Academy also has more runners on the dirt. I still like Sky Classic alot. Your thoughts. It may be more difficult to get to Royal Academy. JT


Do you by chance own the Horse Chestnut filly Little Hussy?

Linebreeding to No Class hasn't been tried much with Sky Classic himself on top, but doubling up on No Class via Smart Strike has been successful. He has Gr-3 winner Smart N Classy and listed winner Don't Strike Out out of Regal Classic mares. Oddly, his oldest foals out of Sky Classic mares listed in the database are 3yos of 2007...and of the two of them, he has one winner and that was in good company.

Sky Classic has one foal in the DB out of a Smart Strike dam and he won over $120k on the track. He also has a stakes winner linebred to Classy Quillo, No Class's dam. Her name is Carolina Sky and she's been running very successfully on the turf in Louisiana and Texas.

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Little Hussy

Postby jacksontyger » Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:37 pm

I think Little Hussy is still owned by the people who raced her that won the Derby with Monorchos. I know Little Hussy was bred to Monorchos. I own the dam of Little Hussy and an unraced full sis. The full sis was born early and is an awesome horse except her hock bones were not able to support her weight at birth and crushed. She could run but not at 100% so I will try her as a broodmare. I am more concerned with breeding a good racehorse out of her than selling price. I have looked at Langfuhr, Sky Classic, Royal Academy, Dehere, Northern Afleet, Exchange Rate and Touch Gold. Any suggestions would be appreciated. The foal will be a Louisiana bred.

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Postby halo » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:58 pm

Are you going to breed her as a 2 year old?

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Postby jacksontyger » Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:36 pm

Yes

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Postby pokeyman » Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:13 am

Yikes..... :shock:

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Postby madelyn » Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:34 am

I would not spend anything anywhere near Royal Academy's fee for a two year old filly because the odds are the first foal out of such a juvenile filly is likely to be very small and not amount to much. Certainly I'm sure there are historical exceptions, I'm just talking about the ODDS.
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Postby pfrsue » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:05 am

A 2 year old who hasn't yet stopped growing, who already has some hock issues due to her premature birth, being bred... that just doesn't sound like a good idea. Not for the filly and definitely not for the marketability of the foal.

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Postby LB » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:05 pm

madelyn wrote:I would not spend anything anywhere near Royal Academy's fee for a two year old filly because the odds are the first foal out of such a juvenile filly is likely to be very small and not amount to much. Certainly I'm sure there are historical exceptions, I'm just talking about the ODDS.


One such exception would be El Corredor, born when Silvery Swan was three. Having a foal that early doesn't seem to have had a negative impact on her breeding career as she went on to produce stakes winners Roman Ruler and Silver Tornado. She is also the dam of 2YO Maimonides who sold for 4.6M as a yearling.

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Postby Maven » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:00 pm

I actually thought about breeding a two year old filly but couldn't bring myself to do it. She was by a stamina influence and although was big, was also physically immature to my eye. I think you really have to go case by case and judge each filly on her own merits.

If she's physically advanced, breeding sound, and has the room to carry a foal comfortably, it shouldn't be an issue.
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Postby BenB » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:49 am

In our country it was done ( breeding with 2 yr olds) only when they were
big and early full matured, with plenty of big strong bones.
Breeding as a two yr old is stopping growth.

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Royal

Postby da hoss » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:53 am

Is Royal Academy's tendency to throw smaller foals?

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Re: Royal

Postby Daisy Jal Dastur » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:20 pm

da hoss wrote:Is Royal Academy's tendency to throw smaller foals?


The filly we bred by Royal Academy was a big, strong looking gal.... luckily we sold her for a modest profit, b/c she doesnt run to her looks....