Pedigree Query

I thought you might be interested to see the list of stallions that have produced stakes winners in the last 60 days in the Northern Hemisphere. The stakes winners refers only to stallions standing in North America or Europe and only stakes races run in those two continents over the 60 day period.

Sire (Stakes Winners)
Unbridled's Song 8
Danehill Dancer (Ire) 6
Danehill 6
A.P. Indy 6
Sadler's Wells 5
Storm Cat 5
Rock of Gibraltar (Ire) 5
Smart Strike 5
Malibu Moon 5
Galileo (Ire) 5
Giant's Causeway 4
Stormy Atlantic 4
Dansili (GB) 4
Lemon Drop Kid 4
Rahy 4
Distorted Humor 3
Montjeu (Ire) 3
Dynaformer 3
Elusive Quality 3
Langfuhr 3
Forest Wildcat 3
Mr. Greeley 3
More Than Ready 2
Broken Vow 2

Good day, Mr Brogers,

On July 7th, you wrote:

brogers wrote:You are being your disingenous self again here Rok. From his first 6 crops of racing age (up to and including his current N.A 4yo crop) he (Unbridled's Song) has 17 foals out of Storm Cat mares, 9 have won and 4 are stakes winners. Now I don't know what you consider successful, but if a cross was punching out stakes winners at a 24% clip I would call it successful.

He has 13 current 3yo's bred on the cross but I hardly think it fair to judge them given that they are just entering the summer of their three year old year (he has actually got two that run in stakes races at their next starts).

It's now almost Mid-September....is it now "fair" to include the three year old crop? If so, any update on the Unbridled's Song/Storm Cat cross producing just 30% winners/foals?

You are slipping Rok

I thought you would at least point out that Forestry is not on the list.....

I guess you answered my question.

As always,
Best Regards,
Rok

Cant say there's any real surprises.

Now, wait a minute.

When I saw that our good friend, Mr Brogers, wrote:

Sire (Stakes Winners)
Unbridled's Song 8

I thought it was pretty impressive to top this list. Then, I got curious - let's see some of the stakes included in this total. Here's one:

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbPDFC ... E=9&BorP=B

The Charlies Iles Express Handicap at Alberquerque? WTF???

I'm not sure what was "Express" about this race - it was run more than seven seconds off the track record for six and a half furlongs. But, I guess a stake is a stake...and, I congratulate Mr Brogers both on this victory and his excellent use of marketing tools. LOL!

Brogers, that adds up to 101 stakes in 60 days. That seems a little light considering all the tracks. Is there a minimum stake, like black type rules, to make this list, or is the Ferndale Charlie Palmer Handicap included?

I was so happy to see Malibu Moon way up there with some really smart company. He had several stakes horses on Labor Day weekend (one winner, By the Light); can I assume that the last 60 days means as of Sept 6?

Happily I have mares in foal to three of those stallions and a weanling on the ground by another.

majxmom wrote:Brogers, that adds up to 101 stakes in 60 days. That seems a little light considering all the tracks.

mafxmom,

I have a feeling (and Byron can confirm or deny it) that Byron's list only includes Stallions that sired 2 or more SWs in the last 60 days.

-llbean

Rokeby Forever wrote:Now, wait a minute.

When I saw that our good friend, Mr Brogers, wrote:

Sire (Stakes Winners)
Unbridled's Song 8

I thought it was pretty impressive to top this list. Then, I got curious - let's see some of the stakes included in this total. Here's one:

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbPDFC ... E=9&BorP=B

The Charlies Iles Express Handicap at Alberquerque? WTF???

I'm not sure what was "Express" about this race - it was run more than seven seconds off the track record for six and a half furlongs. But, I guess a stake is a stake...and, I congratulate Mr Brogers both on this victory and his excellent use of marketing tools. LOL!

Rok,

Fine...take it out if you want...he is still at the top of the list...

majxmom wrote: Brogers, that adds up to 101 stakes in 60 days. That seems a little light considering all the tracks. Is there a minimum stake, like black type rules, to make this list, or is the Ferndale Charlie Palmer Handicap included?

I was so happy to see Malibu Moon way up there with some really smart company. He had several stakes horses on Labor Day weekend (one winner, By the Light); can I assume that the last 60 days means as of Sept 6?

I only listed the top 25 stallions. There are a heap more that had 2 stakes winners or less. It includes stakes races by International Cataloguing Standards. Whatever is considered a stakes race under these rules are in the count. It is the last 60 days to the 6th of Sept.

Oh yeah, there would've been more than only two stallion's with only 2 SWs if you included them all.

-llbean

Well there is a question of the quality of the stakes winners. Real Quiet didn't make your list, yet Midnight Lute won a grade 1 in fantastic style. Not really sure I trust this list.

LB wrote:Happily I have mares in foal to three of those stallions and a weanling on the ground by another.

Good on you! You should have a nice crop headed to the sales!

Maven wrote:

LB wrote:Happily I have mares in foal to three of those stallions and a weanling on the ground by another.

Good on you! You should have a nice crop headed to the sales!

Thanks Maven! We're only selling one this year (a Vindication) but next year we'll probably offer five or so, and we're very pleased with what we have.

You're welcome! You should be pleased! I should let you plan my matings.