Pedigree Query

We are a very small farm and i am sending a mare down to Kentucky to be bred. I have narrowed it down to E Dubai and would love anyones thoughts on him. I have never seen his offspring?

The mare is by Regal Classic out of the mare Sometimes a Diamond (Mr. Prospector),
she needs speed, she is 16:3 and has an offset knee so i need something very correct which he is and bloody good looking!! Thank you a head of time!

I really like E Dubai and we've bred to him twice. The first time he produced a big, good looking filly for us who sold quite well. The second mare is currently in foal to him. I believe his record is only going to improve as he gets more horses running. His results thusfar with a quite small first crop (around 45) have been great. I also really like dealing with Darley who, I think, treats breeders very fairly.

This is our E Dubai filly o/o a Favorite Trick mare. She was 4 months old when this picture was taken.

She is beautiful and what a little tank. I love the look of her. Thanks for replying. I really love the look of him, actually i love everything about him. I liked that Darley has the LFSN stud fee due when!! A lot i have noticed ask for it by Sept 1st of breeding year and i would never do it that way. Although i did mention to Airdrie that i wouldn't do it that way and they said to remind them when contracts were being prepared they would change it. If u have more pictures put them on! she is beautiful!

Your mare would be Royal Diamond? That is an awesome female family.

That is very nice of you to say. She is a beautiful mare but she is slightly offset in front. So i have to make sure whomever she goes too is really correct. I love E Dubai. He doesn't seem to be overly popular why is that?

westover wrote:That is very nice of you to say. She is a beautiful mare but she is slightly offset in front. So i have to make sure whomever she goes too is really correct. I love E Dubai. He doesn't seem to be overly popular why is that?

Perhaps because he's in a crowded niche, being a really good but still somewhat unproven son of Mr P. If you have a mare by Mr P or one of his sons, you're probably not looking at E Dubai or Aldebaran to name two.

I love him. I bred and sold the third highest selling yearling by E. Dubai this year but overall he had a poor sales year relative to his stud fee. Not sure why, most looked good although not large in size. These yearling were from mares from the big bubble year so maybe thats part of it. Can't argue with racetrack performance. Second crop is even better than first.

I am curious if the mares he was bred to are big or average. The mare i am looking to send to him is 16:3. We sold a Toccet out of her this fall here in Canada she was a moose..lol she was 140lbs when she hit the ground.. and never looked back. Slightly offset in front but sold well here. Toccet is absolutely stunning and very correct. I love him!!

p.s. u guys are going to think i am really stupid but what is the big bubble year??? lol

THe bubble years are the stallions 3-4th crops. They are the years after the "freshman" excitement but before the first crop runs. They are often the weekest books even of successful stallions because of this. The benefit to the mare owner on those years is that you could be selling your product when the stallions listed fee is higher than what you bred at. The opposite is more likeely...."breeding on the bubble."

ok i get it. i have never heard it called that. but thats a great way to describe it.

now he has a Breeder's Cup winner, Desert Code, who carried his speed a little longer than your typical sprint distance. With his modest stud fee, E Dubai seems to be really good value.

I bought an E Dubai filly this year and love her. She is tall dark and gorgeous, but doesn't have his width yet. She is very elegant looking. She will start back running early in '09 and is definately a route horse. I have always like him, and would definately buy another.

el camino wrote:THe bubble years are the stallions 3-4th crops. They are the years after the "freshman" excitement but before the first crop runs. They are often the weekest books even of successful stallions because of this. The benefit to the mare owner on those years is that you could be selling your product when the stallions listed fee is higher than what you bred at. The opposite is more likeely...."breeding on the bubble."

I bred to Street Cry "on the bubble" - they were doing foal shares because his book was so light. It was the year Street Sense won the BC Juvenile. We sold the filly as a weanling - which was a mistake. She was a bit small and only brought $40K. That year his fee went from $30K to $100K.