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Best Commercial Play of new incoming stallions?

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:01 pm
by bdw0617
We talk about who we like as stallions, the new and old ones alot, but if you are a breeder, and many of you are, who do you like as a strickly commercial play?


I'll say that I don't think you can go wrong, if you can afford it, to Corinthian if you have a good match.

First of all, Corinthian is a horse model. He's big, he's lean, he's leggy. He has a great stallion pedigree...

just look at him

http://horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=69487

damn....

but moreso, if you are breeding to him, you arem ore than likley going to get a physically appealing offspring that could probably fetch around 80-90k at least I would think.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:07 pm
by Rokeby Forever
Corinthian - #1.

If you're looking to pinhook, Half Ours is your horse. I think "Songandaprayer" when I think of Half Ours.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:14 pm
by bdw0617
Rokeby Forever wrote:Corinthian - #1.

If you're looking to pinhook, Half Ours is your horse. I think "Songandaprayer" when I think of Half Ours.



I can see half ours.. when It hinik of half ours, I think of a medic van

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:24 pm
by Tesio
I love Corinthian also. He'd be my co-top pick. Met Mile & BC Dirt Mile winner is definitely worthy of serious consideration.

Believe it or not, I think Discreet Cat (yes, son of Forestry) is a tremendous value commercially. If Godolphin had not brought him back as a 4 yo, he would have been standing this past season for much more than the $30K he is now.

My problems with Forestry are overly documented, but remember D Cat ran a minus-2 Rag in his second start. He was brilliantly fast and I believe the commercial market will be anticipating similar from his foals.

But, I'm a moron so what do I know?

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:10 pm
by larrygene
The dam side is the key to Corinthian and will be if he is a successful sire. Phipps blood.

Morons and Cretins

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:13 pm
by hpkingjr
Found an interesting discussion on name calling.

An “ad hominem” is a kind of argument, that is fallacious (though, in some contexts, may actually be fairly reliable: more on that in a moment). The argument has the following structure: X asserts Y; you attack X to undermine Y, e.g., you argue that because X is a certain kind of person, Y is false and/or ought not to be believed. Note: the fallacy, strictly speaking, would be to conclude from facts about X that Y is false; concluding that Y ought not to be believed based on an attack on X can be reasonable.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:28 pm
by bdw0617
hey, dosn't coolmore have a stud named "ad hominem”


I might be reaching but I honestly think Corinthian is the best stallion prospect to come along since Fu Peg. Maven has shown me the light! the only downside is like fu peg, he can be a nutt case, although I don't think as bad.

that damside is unreal. and he's a good looking horse


BUT.....

this is about the commercial aspects not the productivy aspects, and I think he just has alot of hte physical traits you like.

Discreet Cat has that storm caty look so I can see that working as well.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:35 pm
by larrygene
And Corinthian has the Easy Goer look, but sadly EG was taken from us at such an early age he could not really prove his greatness. So, now we have Corinthian to carry on that legacy. And I say he will.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:55 pm
by Rokeby Forever
larrygene wrote:The dam side is the key to Corinthian and will be if he is a successful sire. Phipps blood.

Ya hear that, Maven????

However, Corinthian is actually old Claiborne blood on the female side. Bluegrass Cat is Phipps on the bottom, and if he has ANY chance of success, that's the reason why.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:18 pm
by bdw0617
Rokeby Forever wrote:
larrygene wrote:The dam side is the key to Corinthian and will be if he is a successful sire. Phipps blood.

Ya hear that, Maven????

However, Corinthian is actually old Claiborne blood on the female side. Bluegrass Cat is Phipps on the bottom, and if he has ANY chance of success, that's the reason why.


okay damnit. (joking) It hard enough to learn all the sires. it's even harder to learn all the female families.

now I have ot know WHO owned WhAT 50 years ago!!!

(back to pedigree book)

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:49 pm
by Rokeby Forever
bdw0617 wrote:now I have ot know WHO owned WhAT 50 years ago!!!

It should be a course that's taught in High School. I never did understand how learning the Periodic Table was ever going to come in handy.

Periodic Table

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:57 am
by hpkingjr
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:42 pm
by TomFool
I agree Corinthian is a no brainer. I also really think Any Given Saturaday will be a very smart commerical play. Discreet Cat, even as down as Forestry may be now I cant help but think is worth a shot if you get a nice foal by him I cant help but think it would sell very well. US is a bit down as well but I can also see Half Ours & maybe even to a bit lesser degree Songster at a discounted price.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:55 pm
by madelyn
In the New Sires category, I love Silent Name.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:03 pm
by bdw0617
madelyn wrote:In the New Sires category, I love Silent Name.


me too! i love sunday silence, but I like him more as a damsire, so I wuld go to silent name and hope to get a filly!