FAVORITE NEW STALLION

oliverstoned · Postby **oliverstoned** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:15 am

Mine is Silent Name. I think there is some pent up demand for the Sunday Silence line here in the States and I like his female family and stud fee more than Hat Trick. He has shown nice speed on poly and grass and will cross with Mr. P line mares. I think he is capable of siring a variety of types.

Tesio · Postby **Tesio** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:26 am

Hello OStoned,

While I love the fact that Sunday Silence will be represented in the States next year, I'm not sure the demand will be all that great. He has had unbelievably tremendous success in Asia but I am not sure that will carryover to the American commercial market. Danehill is arguably a much more prolific stallion. How many sons of Danehill are represented here?

I am a big fan of both these stallions and would love to see their lines better represented in the states. Sunday Silence breings that Halo line which I love but is disappearing here with More Than Ready most likely to carry it on.

I hope you are right but I am not sure the American breeders will support them at the sales.

oliverstoned · Postby **oliverstoned** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:03 am

Tesio,
I think the reason for no Danehills of note here is due to them being thought of as turf specialists while the HTR line can produce great turf horse AND the occasional American classics horse such as Barbaro, Sunnys Halo, Sunday Silence, heck even Lear Fan had Casual Lies (almost a Derby). As for the commercial appeal you could be right but I hope/think not. I hope he gets a nice mix of Mr.P line dirt loving sprinters and routers.

geowarrior · Postby **geowarrior** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:01 pm

My favorite new stallion - Hard Spun.

Tesio · Postby **Tesio** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:14 pm

INVASOR. More with my heart than my head. He may not scream commercial but he was a helluva runner.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:32 am

Corinthian - what more from a stallion prospect could you want?

oliverstoned · Postby **oliverstoned** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:22 am

Rok,

I like Corinthian as well. The one thing more I could ask is he not be a head case.

larrygene · Postby **larrygene** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:46 am

Probably more "head strong" than "head case". Didn't show any problems this year or the end of last year. Have heard that Easy Goer's can be a bit cantankerous when young and Corinthian's mother is by EG. Corinthian from what I see takes after his dam.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:44 am

oliverstoned wrote:Rok,

I like Corinthian as well. The one thing more I could ask is he not be a head case.

I think Team Jerkens did a great job of straightening out that problem with him. In both the Met Mile and BC Dirt Mile, he was hardly the same horse that he was as a three year old.

Beside, why is that a concern? Plenty of Storm Cats are nuts and people breed to them without thinking twice.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:14 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:Corinthian - what more from a stallion prospect could you want?

I'm already on the interstate and 5 miles down the highway with the corinthian bandwagon. IMHO as can't miss as can't miss gets and is the so damn good looking

ZZTOPPERS · Postby **ZZTOPPERS** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:02 pm

Oli--

I was just out in the paddock telling one of my younger mares that I found her a new boyfriend--she has a date with Silent Name. She asked how he looked (women!) and I told her we're going over to look at him tomorrow (he just arrived at Adena today). She seemed pretty happy, too, but it could have been the sweet feed and apple cookies!

As a race-centered breeder (although every foal is a possible sales candidate, they're all bred to race first and foremost), I love him. Great bloodline, great value, and when the foals run, that Halo line will look pretty smart once again. Darn near broke the track record at Keeneland, can carry speed for a mile on the grass, won in both the US and Europe (mares dig the european guy thing

). Was looking at him last breeding season, too. As far as the "Turf Sire" label, they said the same thing about Forty Niner, now look at Distorted Humor and first cropper Sunday Break--running at two and on all surfaces!

Betsy · Postby **Betsy** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:09 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:Rok,

I like Corinthian as well. The one thing more I could ask is he not be a head case.

I think Team Jerkens did a great job of straightening out that problem with him. In both the Met Mile and BC Dirt Mile, he was hardly the same horse that he was as a three year old.

Beside, why is that a concern? Plenty of Storm Cats are nuts and people breed to them without thinking twice.

I adore Corinthian and think he's a top, top sire prospect, but.......Sky Mesa (to my utter shock, really) has been a disaster. Does that worry you about Corinthian? Sky Mesa was Pulpit's first top son to go to stud......... I do like Purge, but of course he doesn't have runners yet.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:44 pm

Betsy wrote:I adore Corinthian and think he's a top, top sire prospect, but.......Sky Mesa (to my utter shock, really) has been a disaster. Does that worry you about Corinthian? Sky Mesa was Pulpit's first top son to go to stud......... I do like Purge, but of course he doesn't have runners yet.

Corinthian was a stakes horse for two seasons and he comes from a beautiful Claiborne family. I wouldn't dismiss him because of other Pulpit sons - did anyone write off AP Indy because of Houston or Slew O'Gold?

I can't believe that everyone has given up on Sky Mesa. His first crop to race are still two year olds. Same with Mineshaft....if a sire doesn't punch out a bunch of early winners, why is it written off as a "disaster" so quickly? Officer had a ton of early winners in his first crop and he has one Grade III winner to show for it. Yonaguska had a ton of early winners from his first crop - what were any of them worth? Sky Mesa descends from my FAVORITE female tail (Busanda) - how can you write him so fast? He was overhyped and probably stood for too much in his first year - that's not his fault. He's not my favorite sire type (early breakdown and broke down again at three), but give him a chance - geesh!

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:49 pm

Betsy wrote:
Rokeby Forever wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:Rok,

I like Corinthian as well. The one thing more I could ask is he not be a head case.

I think Team Jerkens did a great job of straightening out that problem with him. In both the Met Mile and BC Dirt Mile, he was hardly the same horse that he was as a three year old.

Beside, why is that a concern? Plenty of Storm Cats are nuts and people breed to them without thinking twice.

I adore Corinthian and think he's a top, top sire prospect, but.......Sky Mesa (to my utter shock, really) has been a disaster. Does that worry you about Corinthian? Sky Mesa was Pulpit's first top son to go to stud......... I do like Purge, but of course he doesn't have runners yet.

1. I can't personally tink of one top stallion that storm cat is a damsire to (I didn't say there wasn't one, I said I can't hink of one, throw me a bone)

2. sky mesa's female family isn't in the same country as corinthians. it's good but it's not close.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:54 pm

bdw0617 wrote:2. sky mesa's female family isn't in the same country as corinthians. it's good but it's not close.

ARE YOU NUTS????? Better than Busanda? When God created female tails, he created Busanda! Numbskull Phipps culled her daughters after one generation, and since then, look at all the top horses and sires that carry her on the bottom! Phipps doesn't have a drop of Busanda in anything any more (except through Buckpasser) and he's got a barnful of carwrecks and underachievers.