Two Punch

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merse
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Two Punch

Postby merse » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:58 pm

if anyone is going to the Northview Stallion Station stallion show tomorrow, can you let me know (public or PM) your opinion of Two Punch? I know he is getting up there in age but does he seem healthy, alert, etc.? If they keep in how they've done it in the past, he will be in his stall but they'll not parade him in the show.

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Postby cathyd » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:19 pm

Two Punch joined the show today, and he stayed ground level !!

looks good
Dr. Bowman says that they are not going to limit his book,
but they are going to limit the amount of times that he will cover
any mare to 3. so three strikes and you're out.

he's one of my favorites

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Postby griff » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:41 pm

Do you have any idea what his fee will be this year??

I have an Eastover Court mare that would yield a 2S X 3 D to Heavenly Cause/

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Postby merse » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:35 am

The farm told me $20,000 but someone sent me a link on another forum to the "Sheets" and he is listed at $12,500 there so that may be someone selling their season.

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Postby griff » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:49 am

Thanks

Northview quoted 420k this morning when i called them..

Why do farms list a stallion's fee as "private" if that have a set $20K?/

Would appreciate it if you'd send me directions to the $12k qoute

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Postby madelyn » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:31 am

griff, this might sound pessimistic, but I think they list the horse as "private" and then they quote you a fee based on what they think of your mare. Of course, that is just my opinion, I have no proof, so this could just be wild speculation on my part.

A separate matter - I was talking with Walmac about Sunday Break, and the gal mentioned they are offering discounts for state-bred programs. So you could get to Sunday Break for $3750 if you are foaling OUTSIDE KY. Interesting.
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Postby griff » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:42 pm

Thanks madelyn

I suspect you are correct about the "private treaty" but then most of the advertised fees are also negotiable IF you have the right mare..

Sunday Break has an awsome pedigree but my two mares are in-foal to Rogulet's Indy mood and if those foals are to be eligile for the 40% WV BREEDERS bonus they have to drop in WV and their dams have to be bred to a WV stallion.

The WV stallion I've booked for 2008 is Limit Out and according to the 2008 Thoroughbred Times Stallion directory he has a $58,615 average per runner with 2 stakes winners and 3 stakes wins this year and 33 total starters from 44 foals [75%], and he's doing this with average Mid Atlantic mares.

The mare we are considering for Two Punch belongs to my partner and will drop her PABRED Not for Love foal in PA so it will be eligible for the PABRED incentives.. She's been in PA since September so we can breed her out of state but I think dragging a new-born all th eway to Ky is asking for trouble.

Thanks again for the info and I'll keep it in mind for next year.
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Postby merse » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:37 pm

Griff,

Here you go:

http://www.greensht.com/

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