Brahms to Elite Farm in Louisiana

noworriesfarm · Postby **noworriesfarm** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:35 pm

Just got word of this today- fee of $3500 He will arrive later this week. Now there are 2 sons of Danzig at Elite. Which is the better one? My Friend Max (Full brother to Outflanker) who has put up some good numbers with lesser mares or the newly arrived Brahms?

This is my first post- but I've been enjoying reading the discussions on this board for a couple of months.

Strategic Maneuver · Postby **Strategic Maneuver** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:55 pm

I'm a newbie too, but that would be tough choice for me. Brahms was a much better racehorse to say the least , but the other stud has a wonderful female family. Well, they both have good families. What kind of mare were you thinking of.

Cree · Postby **Cree** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:30 pm

I have worked with a couple Brahms geldings. One had a leg that was so crooked it scared me, and I don't think he ever made a start. He was a nice big, handsome boy (besides that leg).
The other is a (now) 4-year-old who is a sturdy, handsome boy, with awful hind legs, short pasterns, and is recovering from a knee chip. He is a courageous horse though, gives it his all when he runs.
I don't know about anyone else's opinion of Brahms.

larrygene · Postby **larrygene** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:59 pm

Is it me or am I all wrong?? Danzig seems to throw attractive individuals and precocious runners but I would not classify him as a true stand out sire of sires. To me he is a hit or miss sire at best. I just never have been real excited over a Danzig at stud. I understand he has sired some very good sons, i.e., Danehill, but to me they are few and far between considering the mares he has been bred to. Do I stand corrected???

Foggytrip · Postby **Foggytrip** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:04 pm

Brahms is pretty much a zero

AscotStud · Postby **AscotStud** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:05 pm

We foaled out a really nice looking Brahms filly for a client last year. We were actually trying to bring him to our farm for a year or 2. What they wanted to lease him for a year was probably 1/2 of what the horse was worth. The Vinery must have really wanted to hold onto that board money. He's a nice fit in a regiaonal market, LA runs enough on the turf, I think he's pretty good at that price.

Foggytrip · Postby **Foggytrip** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:06 pm

The Buddah's and Brahms are the same. They are generally good looking and very slow

larrygene · Postby **larrygene** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:36 pm

The way you get rid of under achieving stallions is to send them to Louisiana. Like we don't have enough!!!! Why bring in a known dud??? I much prefer a young well bred stallion thats unproven vs a known dog!!! :evil:

For the life of me I can't understand what people are thinking!

Strategic Maneuver · Postby **Strategic Maneuver** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:50 am

What confuses me is why Elite wants to stand two similarily bred sons of Danzig at one farm. I guess mares must really be coming in by the droves to go after the LA bred $$.

noworriesfarm · Postby **noworriesfarm** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:22 pm

Soon we are going to have as many stallions in LA as we do mares!

I know that Elite stands My Friend Max for his south american owners- not sure what the deal with Brahms is.
We had a Brahms filly last year- had a terrible hind end, but tried real hard every time and usually brought home a check.

Rajun Cajun · Postby **Rajun Cajun** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:10 pm

Welcome to the board No Worries! Always nice to have a fellow Folsomite around! And welcome to you to Strategic!

Have you been to Elite to see My friend Max? Just wondered if you will go back to see Brahms and to compare.

www.buildabetterracehorse.com

noworriesfarm · Postby **noworriesfarm** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:47 pm

Thanks for the welcome RaginCajun. Folsom has become quite the hot spot for TB breeding again.
My mare (Breezy Mistress)is bred to My Friend Max for this year, I do like the numbers he has put up, and he is built like a tank.
I'll be seeing Brahms soon because one of the mares we board is booked to him.

Strategic Maneuver · Postby **Strategic Maneuver** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:55 am

Thanks Cajun and boy do I envy your LA bred program. If I didn't have my own farm I would be boarding and breeding all of my mares there.

Rajun Cajun · Postby **Rajun Cajun** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:12 am

My partner is in PA. The program there is great. We are distresed by shipping prices. It seems like we always find a horse in PA that fits in LA and vice versa.

Let me know what you think of Brahms when you see him.