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The Mans not doing too well this year.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:16 pm
by Crystal
Its bound to happen. He'll be pensioned by the end of the year


http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=44483

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:57 pm
by Sam
Overbrook has taken steps to aid Storm Cat. The breeding shed staff has been collecting dismount samples after Storm Cat breeds, centrifuging the sample, and adding extenders before re-infusing it into the mare.

“But Storm Cat is such a good breeder that there is not much dismount with which to work,” Waldman said.

I'm trying not to make wet-spot jokes.

This has been coming for awhile. Now, maybe all those moaners who screamed every time a mare was retired and announced as going to Storm Cat in the last 2 years will get it. He was getting OLD. He wasn't going to be around for ever. IF you were going to go, you had to go NOW.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:20 pm
by Barbaro06
Yep, he's up there in age. I just hope they don't use him until he keels over from breeding. Move him far away from the shed and let him live his last years in some quiet.

Retire him and move on to the next big stud.....

b

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:39 pm
by tbrace
"Hope they don't use him until he keels over from breeding"?

What a way to go!

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:54 pm
by Nerd
Overbrook has taken steps to aid Storm Cat. The breeding shed staff has been collecting dismount samples after Storm Cat breeds, centrifuging the sample, and adding extenders before re-infusing it into the mare.

Wow. I didn't know they could do that--I would think somebody would have a hissy fit about the definition of 'live cover.'

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:25 pm
by NiteOwl666
I didn't know that either...and I too wondered about the AI thing - I went to The Jockey Club website and checked out the rulebook - Under Eligibility For Foal Registration, Letter D:

"As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. "

I'm guessing that part of the rules is what allows them to do that without the resulting foal being ineligible for registration?

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:47 pm
by Sam
NiteOwl666 wrote:I didn't know that either...and I too wondered about the AI thing - I went to The Jockey Club website and checked out the rulebook - Under Eligibility For Foal Registration, Letter D:

"As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. "

I'm guessing that part of the rules is what allows them to do that without the resulting foal being ineligible for registration?

The thing I'm hung up on is the "immediately" part of that statement. Define 'immediately." By the statement in the article, they are "centrifuging the sample and adding extenders" -- um, that all takes some time. Granted, not a considerably long time, but it's at least an hour. Even if it's half an hour, that doesn't sound like "immediately" to me.

It's like the debates we had in when I was in college about exactly how long it took to "premeditate" a murder.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:04 am
by Crystal
I'm sure they have everything pre made if they know they are going to get a dismount sample.. It's not exactly something you decide to do last minute..He's not in a private bathroom with his pants down with a hustler..

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:54 am
by dray33
BRUSHED BAYOU failed under 2 covers to STORM CAT, Overbrook was great to deal with, fair, honest. She now has a date with UNBRIDLED'S SONG.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:36 am
by Crystal
Oo LA LA Dray! Nice.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:26 am
by Danzig
We've been using extenders the last couple of years...Doesn't take as long as you may think. We can have it done within 5 minutes of dismount.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:59 am
by Toccet02
If horses could read and understand spoken English, AP Indy would be kicking up his heels right about now. He is the "cultural" replacement, in my book.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:38 pm
by larrygene
What about Smart Strike???? Could he be the next SC???

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:59 pm
by Toccet02
yes, I think so...but AP Indy is better known right now to horse people and non-horse people alike.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:52 pm
by London
Smart Strike had an explosive run last year and he's been a consistently good stallion from the start, but I think we'll see his fee start to drop a little after Curlin makes his exit.

I think he's a very good stallion, but not exceptional. His best horses in his entire stud career all happened to be active at the same time. A lucky feat.

Hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see him breaking 200k ever in fee.