Australian dosage--very interesting

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Australian dosage--very interesting

Postby vineyridge » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:45 pm

http://www.dosage.com.au/keysireslist.asp

Lots of horses that never made it into US consciousness. Dr. Roman should consider taking off his Northern Hemisphere blinkers.

I keep running into Nonoalcho (sp) in chasing pedigrees. He's not a Roman chef, but he is an Aussie one.
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Postby Patuxet » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:21 pm

On the basis of what do you think Noalcoholic should be designated a chef-de-race? He seems not to have sired anywhere enough stakes-winners of a specific aptitudinal type to warrant it.

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Postby chester » Wed May 07, 2008 1:54 am

In Australia at least, Noalcoholic, a top class miler by a top class miler, did sire stock of a distinct aptitudinal type.

His best progeny were milers or sprinter/ milers almost without exception. One who won at just past 8f was his Group One winning miler, Sober Suit, whose dam was by S/P chef Stage Door Johnny.

Please note Noalcoholic is not described as a Chef, the term used is A-NZ Keysire, which in most cases probably equates to Dr Roman's non-chef sires list on his website. But since only 3 A-NZ stallions have ever been designated chefs-de-race, the most recent was foaled about 60 years ago, you can see the point I'm sure.

With Noalcoholic, if we stuck by the book, the Dosage contribution of his sons and daughters to the next generation is nil (BTW, he is the grand sire of a good young sire here in Falvelon, a champion sprinter himself).

Put simply, by recognising the horse as an Intermediate influence, the Dosage interpretation of pedigrees where he appears becomes that much more relevant and, dare I say, more accurate in general terms.

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Postby Patuxet » Thu May 08, 2008 8:47 pm

If he sired to his already indicated Dosage aptitudinal propensity then there'd be no need to designate him a Chef.