Soundest Sires Today

[Still Dreaming]

What with the firestorm of negative feelings that erupted over the weekend, I was wondering if someone might be able to make a list of some of the sturdiest stallions who are currently at stud. Not necessarily that they raced a long time, but maybe they have really sound offspring. (Obviously, no one from the Unbridled line.)
The only one I can think of right off the bat is Dynaformer. (because of Perfect Drift and McDynamo)

[UmmYeah]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/pdf/StallionDurabilityList.pdf

Langfuhr and Roar are ones that come to mind.

[Sam]

Just about anything from Kris S.

[Toccet02]

Distorted Humor
L'enjoleur
Tour D'or
Black Tie Affair
Allen's Prospect
Sir Leon
Personal Flag
Relaunch


Check out their progeny's starts. Sort by that column. Then for a chuckle, do the same for Storm Cat.

Great thread. Let's "accentuate the positive"

[Toccet02]

Distorted Humor
L'enjoleur
Tour D'or
Black Tie Affair
Allen's Prospect
Sir Leon
Personal Flag
Relaunch


Check out their progeny's starts. Sort by that column. Then for a chuckle, do the same for Storm Cat.

Great thread. Let's "accentuate the positive"

[spex4me]

Just about anything from Kris S.

That is music to my ears..... my filly's sire is full brother to Dr. Fong and Lucky Story and I was getting worried because everything I found about them showed some short race careers, and no real explanation.... sire didn't race b/c of a busted shoulder.

[Toccet02]

sorry for the double post. Internet problems today.
Also, I know some of these are old and/or passed on. But perhaps their families should be studied to find the source of their soundness.

[Sam]

Just about anything from Kris S.

That is music to my ears..... my filly's sire is full brother to Dr. Fong and Lucky Story and I was getting worried because everything I found about them showed some short race careers, and no real explanation.... sire didn't race b/c of a busted shoulder.

I don't recall any physical issues with Fong (don't remember hearing anything about Lucky Story). I always chalked his short career up to being Euro-based.

Didn't know Northward Bound broke his shoulder. Thanks... *notes to personal file*

[soundfast]

Stallions with 1 or more stakes winners & average earnings per runner over $30K are Alabama Gold Spring(arg) 22 starts per runner,Arizona Larrupin 20,Arkansas Proper Reality 24,Rinka Das 20,Forever Dancer 20,Harperstown 21,Mi Cielo 22,Jamiano 23,Super Code 22,California Lit De Justice 21,Beau Genius 24,High Brite 25,Future Storm 20,Latin American 20,Turkoman 23,Comet Shine 23,Houston 20,Discover 22,Chimineas 21,Caros Love 26,Canada Bold Executive 20,Peaks And Valleys 21,Regal Intention 21,Matter Of Honor 23,Highland Ruckus 21,Dr. Adagio 22,Tejabo 22,Fort Chaffee 22,Brunswick 25,Inspired Prospect 23,Sea Wall 20,Domasca Dan 21,Iskandar Elakbar 21,Willard Scott 22,Parlay Me 23,Raj Waki 24. Florida Concorde's Tune 22,Formal Dinner 25,Colony Light 23,Proud And True 23,Skip Trial 26,Migrating Moon 20,The Name's Jimmy 20,Metfield 20,Brief Ruckus 26,Sir Leon 29.Georgia Level Sands 22. Illinois Roanoke 24,Alaskan Frost 25,Shakeel 22,Bold Revenue 29,Classic Account 22,Magloire 23. Indiana Hunting Hard 21,Black Moonshine 24,Best Jest 23,Once Wild 20,Commemorate23, Kentucky Slew City Slew 21,Cryptoclearance 22,Repriced 20,Lil E. Tee 20,Home At Last 25,Kayrawan 20,Stage Colony 23,Clear Course 26. Louisiana Sefapiano 21,Robyn Dancer 23,Zarbyev 23,Ide 21,Count The Time 21,Toolightoquit 20,Native Regent 22,Piccolino 24,Right Jab 25,Blare Of Trumpets 24,Derby Wish 24. Maryland Ameri Valay 23,Amerricos Bullet 23,Bishop Northcraft 34.Massachusetts Sundance Ridge 27,Red Scamper 31. Michigan Demaloot Demashoot 24,Majesty's Imp 23. Minnesota Demidoff 28,Shotiche 25. Nebraska Alyfoe 25. New Mexico Suave Prospect 20,Tricky Creek 25,Groomstick 27,New York Regal Classic 25,Rizzi 22,Crusader Sword 26,American Standard 24,Manlove 22,Nines Wild 22,Expensive Decision 28,Trick Me 20,Oklahoma Lucky Lionel 20,Rare Brick 28,Jack Wilson 25,Devious Course 23,Reel On Reel 21,Star Of The Crop 21,Nicholas 23,Ohio Mercer Mill 20,Mahogany Hall 20,Academy Award 20,Yeti 22,Alladin Rib 28,Keep It Down 25,Full Count 23,Camp Izard 39. Pennsylvania Ops Smile 21,Two Davids 27,Just Like Jo 28,Spectaculardynasty 27.South Carolina Buckhar 23. Tennessee P.Fifty One 50. Texas Thats Our Buck 21,Gold Alert 30,All Gone 23,Fire Maker 22. Virginia Hay Halo 21,Ball's Bluff 21. West Virginia Kokand 21,My Boy Adam 20,Black Tie Affair 20,Weshaam 24. Starts per runner are suject to change. A second list of those with 18 to 19 starts will be added in a new post as these are above the new average of 16 to 17 and a list of average sires with 16 or 17 will be added after those. Lists may not be 100% complete.

[horsenuts]

Ones with stakes winners & average earnings per runner over $30K are Alabama Gold Spring(arg) 22 starts per runner,Arizona Larrupin 20,Arkansas Rinka Das 20,Forever Dancer 20,Harperstown 21,Mi Cielo 22,Jamiano 23,Super Code 22,California Lit De Justice 21,Beau Genius 24,High Brite 25,Future Storm 20,Latin American 20,Turkoman 23,Comet Shine 23,Houston 20,Discover 22,Chimineas 21,Caros Love 26,Canada Bold Executive 20,Peaks And Valleys 21,Regal Intention 21,Matter Of Honor 23,Highland Ruckus 21,Dr. Adagio 22,Tejabo 22,Fort Chaffee 22,Brunswick 25,Inspired Prospect 23,Sea Wolf 20,Domasca Dan 21,Iskandar Elakbar 21,Willard Scott 22,Parlay Me 23,Raj Waki 24. Florida Concorde's Tune 22,Formal Dinner 25,Colony Light 23,Proud And True 23,Skip Trial 26,Migrating Moon 20,The Name's Jimmy 20,Metfield 20,Brief Ruckus 26,Sir Leon 29.Georgia Level Sands 22. Illinois Roanoke 24,Alaskan Frost 25,Shakeel 22,Bold Revenue 29,Classic Account 22. Indiana Hunting Hard 21,Black Moonshine 24,Best Jest 23,Once Wild 20. Kentucky Slew City Slew 21,Cryptoclearance 22,Repriced 20,Lil E. Tee 20,Home At Last 25,Kayrawan 20,Stage Colony 23. To be Continued

I'd recommend acquiring broodmares by Beau Genius and Turkoman from that list.

[diomed]

I don't want to pound on the parade here, but have we considered the fact that most of these sires get horses that aren't a hot commodity to breed to?
Storm Cat's and AP Indy's go to stud faster just because they are in demand vs lower ranked stallions.
It is good, however, to see Distorted Humor on that list. That is very telling since he also a commercial sire.

[Toccet02]

Perhaps it's time to start making sound progeny stallions the hot commodity by pumping them up.
Fashions and fads are fueled by hype.
That's fine in theory; literally, I suppose we'd have to donate to their ad campaigns or something.
I don't know how that end of the industry works.

[soundfast]

Stallions with 18 to 19 starts per runner average earnings above $30K at least 1 SW. CA- Kissin Kris,Storm Creek,Helmsman,Olympio,Lake George,Birdonthewire,suggest,Boomerang,Bonus Money. CANADA- Tejano Ruler,Alydeed,Vying Victor,Cobra King,I Cant Believe,Magic Prospect,Real West. FL- Concerto,Mecke,Wekiva Springs,Cimarron Secret,Master Bill,Safely's Mark,Marco Bay. IL- Quaker Ridge,Friendly Lover,Diazo,Spanish Drummer. IN- D.C. Tenacious. IOWA- Williamstown,Deerhound,Canaveral,Alyten. KY- Dynaformer,Silver Deputy,El Prado,Out Of Place,Quiet American,Sky Classic,Devil His Due,Petionville,Pioneering,Cozzene,Pyramid Peak,Cat's Career. LA- Forty Won. MD- Not For Love,Two Punch,Wayne County. MA- Lycius. MI- Native Factor,Quiet Enjoyment,Binalong. MN- Ghazi,Appealing Skier. MT- Defensive Play. NE- Dazzling Falls. NJ- Defrere,Private Interview. NM- Precocity,Seacliff,Dry Gulch. NY- Take Me Out,Jade Hunter,Key Contender,Kings Grant. OH- Part The Waters,Spunky Rascal. OK- Concern,Apollo. PA- Patton,Banker's Gold,Lord At Law. UT- Mi Selecto. TX- Valid Expectations,Dove Hunt,Gold Legend,Boone's Mill,Al Sabin,Struggler. VA- Fred Astaire. WA- Delineator,Katowice,Top Account. WV- Prized,Prospect Bay,Valiant Nature,Run Softly.

[soundfast]

Stallions with 16 to 17 average lifetime starts per runner average earnings over $30K at least 1 SW. AR- Pine Bluff. CA- Salt Lake,Game Plan,Cee's Tizzy,Roar,Michael's Flyer,Musique D' Enfer. CANADA- Bold N' Flashy,Kiridashi,Whiskey Wisdom,Foxtrail,Katahaula County,Captain Bodgit,Alfaari,Othello,Gilded Time. FL- Halo's Image,Diligence. IL- Denouncer. IN- Crown Ambassador. IOWA- Sharkey,Dignitas. KY- Pleasant Tap,Rahy,Smoke Glacken,Gulch,Belong To Me,Skip Away,Lost Soldier,Dixieland Band,Bright Launch,Intidab,Crimson Classic. LA- Afternoon Deelites,Placid Fund,Upping The Ante,My Mike,Rail,Seattle Sleet. MD- Outflanker,Crypto Star,Go For Gin. MN- Supremo. NE- Blumin Affair. NM- Gold Case,Desert God,Scatmandu,Iam The Iceman,Regal Groom,Super Special. NY- Eltish,Raffie's Majesty,Comeonmom,Might Magee,Polish Pro. OK- Evansville Slew,In Case,Senor Speedy. PA Lite The Fuse,Partner's Hero,Activist,Will's Way,My Favorite Grub,Spartan Victory. TX- Dixieland Heat,Storm Broker,Parade Ground,Lucky So N So. WA- Matty G,You And I. WV- Limit Out,Mesopotamia.

[Sam]

Soundfast, it would be easier to read those if you took the time to break them up (put each name on a separate line or something).

Also, a lot of those stallions aren't in the states you have them listed in. Kissin Kris is in Canada now, as is Gilded Time.