CHESTER HOUSE and EMPIRE MAKER

[Patuxet]

I notice that deceased sire Chester House's numbers have continued to improve. His current world-wide earnings place him 12th on the General Sire List with average earnings per runner of $77,616 and an impressive 13.9 % stakes winners from starters -- exceeded only by Storm Cat's 17.3 % and AP Indy's 16.7 %. Obviously his get have improved as they've matured -- perhaps worth remembering before giving up too soon on the offspring of his 5/8 brother-in-blood, Empire Maker.

[LB]

I didn't know anyone had given up on Empire Maker.

[gotpaints]

Aren't EM's foals just 3 this year? How can someone give up on him after one crop?

[Patuxet]

Of course I never meant to imply that Empire Maker has already been found wanting as a sire.

I'm simply pointing out that if his offspring don't prove themselves right off the bat as two and three year olds -- which unfortunately is what impatient American racing seems to demand -- just give them some more time and they may very well prove themselves down the road as the Chester Houses have.

[griff]

If Empire Maker is a 5/8 brother to Chester House what is Civilisation's relationship to Chester House??

griff

[griff]

I just looked at the generial Sire list on The Bloodhorse and that list has him # 9.
It also said his 99 starters have won $4,298,538 which I believe is $43,400 per starter. And 14 stakes winners out of 99 starters yields 14.1% stakes winners from starters

What am I missing here?/

griff

[Patuxet]

griff:

I found my information on page 13 here:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/media/ ... 072108.pdf

[griff]

I must be missing something here:

The Thoroughbred Times does indeed list Chester House's avearge earnings per starter as $77,616; HOWEVER it also lists Chester House with 95 starters and $4,159,693 in earnings>

$4,159,693 divided by 95 yields an average of $43,787 per starter not $77,616 per starter.

Maybe TB racing uses some other method of calculation average earnings per starter other than dividing total earnings by total starters.

griff

[hpkingjr]

Griff:

The way I read the chart, the 70+K is lifetime earnings per starter and the 43K is for this year.


12 Chester House, 95, by Mr. Prospector Dead 95/52 14/18 Ventura (566,997) 4,159,693 3 72 13.9% 77,616

[Patuxet]

griff:

Civilisation is a 3/4 brother-in-blood to Chester House.

[griff]

hpking

The lifetime vs one year average per starter would explain the differience. Thanks for the insiget

griff

[Patuxet]

The Chester Houses keep on winning. Yesterday 4YO Phoenix Tower ran 2nd to the European hero horse, Duke of Marmelade, in the 10fT Juddmonte International (Eng-G1). 6YO Spring House won the 11fT Del Mar H. (G2). And for good measure 5YO Remain Silent won the $100,000 Mr. Jenny H. at only 5fT at Philadelphia Park.

His fillies may well turn out to be valuable broodmares.

[griff]

Are all his winners older horses?

griff

[Heidilady]

Are all his winners older horses?

griff

Nowadays they are. He had his last crop in 2004. Dunno how many were early winners back in the day--Divine Park won the Withers at 3 so that's the only high profile one under 4 I can recall. His numbers keep improving and the only ones to do that left are 4+ years.