Strategic Mission

springboro · Postby **springboro** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:03 pm

Wow, those are some numbers on improving his mares from such a youngster.

Any word on what his stud fee will be NEXT year?

He has little commercial appeal at this stage, but I love everything else about him.

ct2346 · Postby **ct2346** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:30 am

My guess is that it will sit around 5k next year and I would steer clear. Why they returned him to Kentucky I have no idea. They should have kept him in NY and milked another year out of the Showing Up skew.

Pass.

pokeyman · Postby **pokeyman** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:02 am

ct2346 wrote:My guess is that it will sit around 5k next year and I would steer clear. Why they returned him to Kentucky I have no idea. They should have kept him in NY and milked another year out of the Showing Up skew.

Pass.

I believe he went to nY to a farm that specializes in fertility problems. Rumor has it he was struggling with fertility issues in KY and mares owners became gun shy.

I think he has every right to be in KY based on race record and pedigree. I wonder if he never had fertility issues if he would have stayed there....

Turf stallions are now getting a second life with synthetic surfaces as you just don't know which bloodlines will take to them.

I don't know if his fertility problems came back in KY or not.

soundfast · Postby **soundfast** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:39 am

According to the Jockey Club he bred 61 mares in 07 and had 48 live foals this year which is 79%. A very good percentage. I liked him back when he was in NY and they advertised him on thoroughlybred.com. He is by Mr. Prospector out of G2 winning Sultry Sun by Buckfinder(Buckpasser x Shenanigans). Sultry Sun produced 2 other Stakes winners G1 winner of over $1.6M Sultry Song and G1 winner Solar Splendor winner of $1,386,468. His pedigree is better than many of the horses standing in KY and he had 23 starts with 7 wins and is a Graded stakes winner with a rag no. of 2 1/2 which may not be the fastest but it easily beats many other KY sires including A P Indy. His female family is outstanding and so is his sire. What's not to like?

fastappy · Postby **fastappy** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:51 pm

What's not to like would be 4 winners from 15 starters this year, averaging $7,161, lifetime median earnings of $3,575 (granted only 23 starters), and a current year AEI of .53 vs CI 1.22.

Still he has done well to get 1 champion and 2 graded SWs from only 23 starters. It's just a question of whether he will be consistent, the jury is still out on this one. This year he's only 30% in the money with $1,918 per start.

At $7,500 I feel he's worth the gamble though.

ASB · Postby **ASB** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:19 pm

If you take Showing Up out of the equation, he's over-priced. He's throwing some horses who have some physical issues as well.

Many of the foals you see have some knee problems. I have not seen SM, but I'm going to assume he doesn't have the best physical.

Now on the plus side, I think Florida breeders have secured a real standout in Showing Up. I think this horse has a real chance to throw terrific runners and brings some pedigree elements that will compliment a lot of the Florida broodmare population.

Showing Up also happens to be a damn good looking horse. He has push button speed and could carry it on any surface.