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bdw0617
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i'm predicting he is going to be the next big thing from the storm cat line. his weanling are just droolworthy
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bdw0617 wrote:i'm predicting he is going to be the next big thing from the storm cat line. his weanling are just droolworthy
Have you actually seen them or are you just basing this off their sales prices so far?
I've seen a lot more average to mediocre ones than I have really nice ones. "Droolworthy" might be reaching by a mile.
No, I'm not. And if you're watching the feed then the answer to the question is no, you haven't seen them.
Damn near every horse that passes through the ring on the feed looks decent. That's no way to assess what a stallion is throwing.
It's one thing to say a stallion's offspring are selling well or you've heard good things, but it's another to state something as fact when all you've seen is a video feed of a sale.
Damn near every horse that passes through the ring on the feed looks decent. That's no way to assess what a stallion is throwing.
It's one thing to say a stallion's offspring are selling well or you've heard good things, but it's another to state something as fact when all you've seen is a video feed of a sale.
ASB wrote:No, I'm not. And if you're watching the feed then the answer to the question is no, you haven't seen them.
Damn near every horse that passes through the ring on the feed looks decent. That's no way to assess what a stallion is throwing.
It's one thing to say a stallion's offspring are selling well or you've heard good things, but it's another to state something as fact when all you've seen is a video feed of a sale.
Ditto that, ASB.
But I have to say I've been very impressed with the ones that I've seen. For the most part, they look like really nice, athletic, weanlings.
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i'll take the bait.
There are what.. thousands of posts saying yearlings, etc look good. Why do you call ME out for sayin the same thing? I have been watching the feeds all day long and I am looking at horses and BAM I keep seeing yearling after yearling by this same sire come up that look great. at least to my untrained eye. I made a post about it.
here you come, "WELL DID YOU SEE THE HORSE?"
no ASB. i'm telekentitc. I have the ability to visualize horses in my head and how they look compared to others without actually seeing anything.
Then in your next post, you twist my words. How can you tell me that I haven't SEEN them when I am watching a live video of the darn horse?
"well you really didn't SEE them because you weren't there"
which implies two things, first and foremost, that "i'm not a horse person".. which is a pretty darn cheap shot if you ask me. but i digress. I still think the yearlings look good. if you dont' think so, fine, let's talka bou tit. teach me why they don't look good to your trained eye. that's why i'm here. NOt to hear you tell me what I am and am not watching. That gets under my skin, for no other reason than it's uterrly uncalled for. I'm excited about a sire, a storm cat sire no less, and all you can do, all you care to do, is to belittle a post by telling me what I have and have not seen.
Had Madlyn told you she saw a yearling on a feed that was droolworthy you'd be rushing to find the hip number and concuring, it's the hyprociy that's irrotating
even the next poster, while "dittoing" what yous aid.. ended p saying the exact same thing I said.
There are what.. thousands of posts saying yearlings, etc look good. Why do you call ME out for sayin the same thing? I have been watching the feeds all day long and I am looking at horses and BAM I keep seeing yearling after yearling by this same sire come up that look great. at least to my untrained eye. I made a post about it.
here you come, "WELL DID YOU SEE THE HORSE?"
no ASB. i'm telekentitc. I have the ability to visualize horses in my head and how they look compared to others without actually seeing anything.
Then in your next post, you twist my words. How can you tell me that I haven't SEEN them when I am watching a live video of the darn horse?
"well you really didn't SEE them because you weren't there"
which implies two things, first and foremost, that "i'm not a horse person".. which is a pretty darn cheap shot if you ask me. but i digress. I still think the yearlings look good. if you dont' think so, fine, let's talka bou tit. teach me why they don't look good to your trained eye. that's why i'm here. NOt to hear you tell me what I am and am not watching. That gets under my skin, for no other reason than it's uterrly uncalled for. I'm excited about a sire, a storm cat sire no less, and all you can do, all you care to do, is to belittle a post by telling me what I have and have not seen.
Had Madlyn told you she saw a yearling on a feed that was droolworthy you'd be rushing to find the hip number and concuring, it's the hyprociy that's irrotating
even the next poster, while "dittoing" what yous aid.. ended p saying the exact same thing I said.
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If any person anywhere told me they thought a stallion's foals were "droolworthy" and they were predicting him to be the "next big stallion" for his sire-line I would not only call them crazy but also grossly uninformed if they think they can ever come to ANY type of conclusion about what a horse is siring via a live video feed at a sale.
It was not a personal attack. Yet you made it personal. I was asking if you had seen the horses in the flesh, which is the ONLY way to assess a stallion's progeny, or if you were basing your opinion on sales results. Evidently, neither.
To take it one step farther, I bet you would find it extremely difficult to find one breeder/owner who's willing to make such broad statements based on an internet feed.
Do yourself a favor and actually attend a sale. You wont only find it entertaining but also extremely educational on many fronts, not the least of which is conformation. I guarantee you once you do go to one, you'll never make a statement like you did based off a sales feed.
It was not a personal attack. Yet you made it personal. I was asking if you had seen the horses in the flesh, which is the ONLY way to assess a stallion's progeny, or if you were basing your opinion on sales results. Evidently, neither.
To take it one step farther, I bet you would find it extremely difficult to find one breeder/owner who's willing to make such broad statements based on an internet feed.
Do yourself a favor and actually attend a sale. You wont only find it entertaining but also extremely educational on many fronts, not the least of which is conformation. I guarantee you once you do go to one, you'll never make a statement like you did based off a sales feed.
bdw0617 wrote:
even the next poster, while "dittoing" what yous aid.. ended p saying the exact same thing I said.
She actually checked out the yearlings, not a computer screen. Her opinion has merit. Yours doesn't.
This site is suppose to be informative and educational for breeders, fans and owners alike. Stating something as fact that is based on a grainy feed does no one any favors.
bdw
When and if you ever learn how to post an "opinion" as to posting as if you are stating "facts" your comments would be easier to take. First of all Bluegrass Cat has only weanlings on the ground, therefore, it will be 2010 before any of his first crop makes it to the races, so if you think he will be the next big Storm Cat line sire that is one thing, to state it as fact is your usual manner. It is almost impossible to judge conformation, attitude, balance and presence from a video feed. With that said, you are entitled to your opinion, but when your opinion is doubted you are the one that gets personal and defensive. You do not have hands on experience with horses, why is that a cheap shot, it is what it is. You always like to come off as an expert, when in fact, you are far from an expert on judging conformation in person, much less from a video feed.
LB is an owner/breeder and she did not say the exact same thing you said, she said she was impressed with the weanlings she has seen, not anything going to "droolworthy".
DDT
When and if you ever learn how to post an "opinion" as to posting as if you are stating "facts" your comments would be easier to take. First of all Bluegrass Cat has only weanlings on the ground, therefore, it will be 2010 before any of his first crop makes it to the races, so if you think he will be the next big Storm Cat line sire that is one thing, to state it as fact is your usual manner. It is almost impossible to judge conformation, attitude, balance and presence from a video feed. With that said, you are entitled to your opinion, but when your opinion is doubted you are the one that gets personal and defensive. You do not have hands on experience with horses, why is that a cheap shot, it is what it is. You always like to come off as an expert, when in fact, you are far from an expert on judging conformation in person, much less from a video feed.
LB is an owner/breeder and she did not say the exact same thing you said, she said she was impressed with the weanlings she has seen, not anything going to "droolworthy".
DDT
bdw
You are correct, so chalk up another "win" on your score card, I should have been more general in my comments as to your matter of fact posts, and since it has always appeared to me that to win a debate is most important to you, not the subject matter, you win again.
A lot of people are talking about the Henny Hughes' weanlings, do you have any thoughts on him as a future Storm Cat line stallion?
DDT
You are correct, so chalk up another "win" on your score card, I should have been more general in my comments as to your matter of fact posts, and since it has always appeared to me that to win a debate is most important to you, not the subject matter, you win again.
A lot of people are talking about the Henny Hughes' weanlings, do you have any thoughts on him as a future Storm Cat line stallion?
DDT
So lets take it one step further.. What stallions does everyone know of that just produce trainwrecks of weanlings and yearlings. Can we get comparrisons? Feet/leg/balance/stride.
Granted yes if they were bad they probably wont make it to the sales ring, but just general thoughts on particular stallions.
If a novice can make a statement about a few offspring of a particular stallion looking like rockstars among 2000+ other horses they must look nice.
Granted yes if they were bad they probably wont make it to the sales ring, but just general thoughts on particular stallions.
If a novice can make a statement about a few offspring of a particular stallion looking like rockstars among 2000+ other horses they must look nice.
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bdw0617
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gee thanks for the vote of cofidence.
It's like what the senator said about pornogrpahy.. I can't define it but i know it when is see it. he had one that looked so good that I had i been at the sale and had the money i would have bought him right then and there. he looked that good. went for like 230k
anyway, afleet alex, from what i seen of him, throws some ewalks.
It's like what the senator said about pornogrpahy.. I can't define it but i know it when is see it. he had one that looked so good that I had i been at the sale and had the money i would have bought him right then and there. he looked that good. went for like 230k
anyway, afleet alex, from what i seen of him, throws some ewalks.
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